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Posted: Mar. 29 2007,04:44 QUOTE

After successfully running DSL on my thinkpad Celeron 700 128 ram I decided to use the Toram option but found it difficult to achieve until I found out Lilo gives the Toram option while setting up the install-solving my first problem.
However, after reinstalled with Lilo with Toram I now have this problem.
Booting only just starts then I get this :

GRUB loading,please wait........
ERROR 15

It would seem like it wants to load grub even though I did a LILO install.
Can anyone help -Ive been all day on this.
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Posted: Mar. 29 2007,06:28 QUOTE

Quote (gregc @ Mar. 28 2007,23:44)
After successfully running DSL on my thinkpad Celeron 700 128 ram I decided to use the Toram option but found it difficult to achieve until I found out Lilo gives the Toram option while setting up the install-solving my first problem.
However, after reinstalled with Lilo with Toram I now have this problem.
Booting only just starts then I get this :

GRUB loading,please wait........
ERROR 15

It would seem like it wants to load grub even though I did a LILO install.
Can anyone help -Ive been all day on this.

You have the same options available in GRUB if you enter the cheatcode(s) when you boot to install OR if you add it when you do the installation OR afterward. Did you miss that in all of the stuff you read? It's there. If you did miss it, all you had to do was add the FIVE little letters -- "toram" -- to one little line in your GRUB menu.list I told you to add (and didn't someone else tell you to edit that in the other day?) and everything would've been okay. I even showed you the part in the other thread you needed to change. Why did you try to reinstall when there was nothing wrong with it before?

Okay, since you were all trigger happy you now have GRUB in your MBR and that's conflicting with LILO. If you want to use LILO (which isn't as easy to "fix" either now or down the road), you'll first have to clear GRUB from your MBR. Then you'll have to do your LILO manually.

1. Remove GRUB:
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/DRIVE bs=446 count=1

Where drive is hda or whatever your hard drive is. That's the easy part.

2. Now you can reinstall LILO. For that, you're on your own unless someone else wants to walk you through it.
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LILO.html

Or you can just clear out as in step 1, reinstall (again!) with GRUB, add five letters to menu.list, and if you don't like that option -- or want to mess around with others -- you can change it around however you want by re-editing menu.list without having to keep running LILO again and again.

But it's your choice. Whatever you decide, have fun.


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Posted: Mar. 29 2007,08:22 QUOTE

BACK TO YOU LUCKY-I am a sixty year old trying to learn this stuff and gave up on yesterdays suggestions when I couldnt understand how to carry them out.I found the tone in your answer was quite critical of me.I feel bad enough as it is without you making me feel worse.
I guess EVEN YOU had troubles when you were just starting out
as well.Hopefully no one belittled you.
However you did take the time to help and thank you for that and I will try your suggestions.
To answer some of your questions of me-
I wished to change my  successful Frugal install because it is supposed to be a quicker OS using TORAM.
You gave me two suggested references-one which you said OOPS- was incorrect so I disregarded it.As for the other suggestion, I did an install using the pdf from the mirror you referred to.This is, in fact,is a lilo install and i followed it exactly and ended with the problem I now have.
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Posted: Mar. 29 2007,09:13 QUOTE

Mikshaw, hats, and I all offered you the same instructions -- open menu.list and edit in five letters (toram). Save it and you're done. From there it's just a reboot to load DSL into RAM. Nobody ever said reinstall. Nobody ever said to use LILO instead of GRUB (I would've tried to discourage you if I'd known that you were going to do that for the very reason you're having issues now). You did that in spite of what all three of us told you:

Mikshaw:
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Look for Grub's menu.lst file in /boot/grub on the partition where DSL was installed... Add "toram"


hats:
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edit /cdrom/boot/grub/menu.lst
with any text editor (beaver, vi, nano, etc) using root privileges.


lucky13:
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The process of editing the menu.list, though, is the same with respect to which line toram goes...lang=us toram frugal home=wherever opt=wherever host=whatever


Did you get GRUB removed from your MBR? Did you get everything set up okay? :cool:

If you want some more help, ask. Whether you want my opinion or not, here it is:
1. Get GRUB out of MBR using the dd command string above.
2. Boot the live CD using the options you want installed:
Code Sample
toram home=whicheverpartition opt=whicheverpartition lang=us host=whatevernameyouwantyourcomputertohave

and anything else your system requires. What you enter there will carry over when you install.
3. Re-install DSL frugal as you planned.
4. I would recommend you use GRUB so you can more easily remove add other codes without fiddling with LILO and without feeling you have to reinstall.
5. Ask questions and listen to the answers.


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Posted: Mar. 29 2007,09:30 QUOTE

Lucky
Be gentle I am new at this .
I can reinstall using grub- I find that easy but cant follow where or how to go about the editing needed for the permanent change to toram.
Will be back in five with a freshly loaded grub frugal to play with.
If you can walk me thru it would be good.
Thanks

Please note I have followed your advice and I now have a fresh GRUB frugal install.Of all the suggestions which one is the easiest to get Toram.
Most suggestions required editing lines which I have no idea how to find.
eg; I do not know how to find menu lists.
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