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Posted: Dec. 21 2003,23:14 QUOTE

going more off topic but,
Enthusi, you hit on an important point.  It takes a lot if diligence to keep
the larger apps out.  Unfortunately, all programs seem to grow with time.  There are a lot of interesting projects being maid with an eye on being lean, but I think a lot of the "main stream" desktop applications are getting very large.

Big computers, cheap ram and large hard drives are making it really easy to get sloppy with size.

Regarding calling a bash script a program, sorry, I was tired :).
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Posted: Dec. 22 2003,00:01 QUOTE

Who isnt tired (of) these days John ;-)
As a big nostalgic (C64-friend still) it also sadens me to see things grow and grow... Therefore my Enthusiasm for Assembler ;-)
Things get better (mostly) but never more efficient. Efficency is to costly to care about. I think this will change during the next two decades, when CPUs maybe reach their limit... Part of me does hope so.
I love to write a simple program and then investing time and ideas not to make it less simple but more efficient.
for those who care: www.menuetos.org is a 100% assembler OS but its for fun and demonstration... DSL if for real. It can be used! and the big machines do NO MORE. That Burn-Bash is fun since it is smaller than a single picture of WIN-NERO but thats all.
There are several commands rewritten in assembler for linux. I'll look up a link to them. The spare little place since the 'real'  LS and CP are no THAT big ;-) but it's the idea that counts... Why take something lame and big when small does it all, too (I'm 1,70 btw ;-))
Efficiency is still important but almost forgot about... Space and CPU time got far cheaper than good coders.
How much space could be saved if only all executables were stripped? Noone would risk that but it's an ironic though I think....
Well, obviously it's late, so I better stop here...
Code well and keep it simple and efficient


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Posted: Dec. 22 2003,20:03 QUOTE

While we are on the subject of small CD recording user interfaces for Linux, check out CDR Toaster:

http://www.jump.net/~brooke/cdrtoast/

It is a small script (~20k) that uses tk language to produce a graphical front end which is nice for the GUI-oriented user.

I use this script with KNOPPIX because I can never get k3b working when booting from the LiveCD and I don't want to mess around with command line cdrecord yet.

If John could ever figure out a way (very unlikely) to get a slimmed-down version of the CDrecord utilities to become part of DSL, CDR Toaster would be a nice addition to the distro.
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Posted: Dec. 22 2003,23:57 QUOTE

What I'd love is a proggie like Workbone,
One which would write as well as play CDs from the prompt.
I've a vague suspicion that there was one being developed for Slack a while ago.........
Will have to do some research.

Agree totally with enthusi but fear we're in the minority.......
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Posted: Dec. 23 2003,05:25 QUOTE

Cbagger01, cdrtoast would be tough because DSL dosn't have tk/tcl, though the tk/tcl packages aren't that big.  Gcombust is gtk based and sort of small.

Re bashburn, I've been playing with it and think it is a very good, and easy to use.
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