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Topic: 3d Gaming in DSL, Can of Worms? .. or Can of Whoop-Ass ?

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ke4nt1

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Posted: Dec. 26 2004,21:34

As of 12/26/2004..

I felt the need to start this thread, as the SCREENSHOTS thread is becoming
somewhat bogged with all the loading of screenies in there..
( I can only imagine what a dialup-er must think when they hit THAT thread )

I plan to "link" my screenies to my server, rather than loadup images. ( that should help )

I'll also move my 3d screenies over to this new thread, in an attempt to keep
"games" and "gaming" in here, and desktops in there...

With the new extensions that hit the site here around Christmastime,
the possibility for using DSL as a real 3d Gaming platform is coming to fruition.
I have been working with a "wine.dsl" for some time now, and other games.
Henk's XFree86.dsl was the impetus that put several of us into action.
With that came the NVidia.dsl , kernelsources.dsl, binutils.dsl, XF86Config's ..
Now many games that require 3D or accelerated graphics will soon arrive here.

I have personally tested and run the following successfully..

Quake 3 Arena ( yea! ) ( linux version )
Soldier of Fortune II ( under wine )
TuxRacer ( it's now in "testing" area of the repository )
Frozen Bubble ( another yea! )
Foobillard ( suggested by Henk )
Vega Strike

just added - UT2003 ( linux demo )

I had these running in DSL already, but the XFree and NVidia just makes them better..
StarCraft ( under wine )
Heroes III of Might & Magic ( for Linux )
Railroad Tycoon II ( for Linux )
Myth II - the Soulblighter ( for Linux )
Civilization II - ( under wine - needs further work )
Isn't there a Civ II - Call to Power for Linux out back inthe loki days?

Several others as I get my hands on them..

I'm certain many more will hit the repository shortly.

Obviously, the non-gpl stuff ( Q3, SoF2, StarCraft, etc.. ) will never be
"extensions" , but the environment to run them in is already in place.

This also suggest further work needs to be done to create the
accelerated drivers for ATI, Matrox, etc.. I won't be much help here,
since I don't own any of these, but I expect they will show up soon..

What about servers? Quake 3 server ? SoF2 server ?
Wouldn't it just be the bees knees to have a DSL LiveCD bootup up,
and have a q3 server loaded and awaiting incoming players,
configured however you like, and playable from your DSL box ??

What about other games and their servers? ( half-life , halo2 , etc ?)
What other games do you know have linux patches or servers for download?

I'm guessing that this thread will explode here shortly, as more features
become available, and DSL is not considered just an
"office and web" endowed distro, but a true lightweight gaming platform.

For many folks, running these games on their boxes is a priority when selecting
a distro to work with. Now DSL is firmly in position to have this ability "on call" ,
without having to alter the base .iso for the uses of running on older or slower equipment.
This only adds to DSL's appeal...

Your thoughts?

73
ke4nt

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Posted: Dec. 26 2004,23:04

UT2004 demo is available for linux, I've been playing the demo on windoze for the past six months, it's awesome, only limits are the maps you can play on and the characters available. Even if I could afford the full install, I simply don't have the space fot it, as it takes up something like 5.5GIG!! Demo is about 500MB, so could easily fit a 3D DSL plus UT2004demo onto a standard CD!

As I said somewhere else, License to Kill: the Borg Matrix is being developed for linux, it's a STANDALONE version of ActionQuake2 that doesn't require any pak files, is compatible with AQ2 servers, and includes bots for single player gaming.

But yeah, definitely UT2004, that would be a HUGE boon for DSL!

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mikshaw

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Posted: Dec. 26 2004,23:50

Cube!

I'm gonna try it out in DSL soon...downloading the xfree and nvidia extensions now.
Cube isn't GPL, but it is open source and distributable, so it can be an extension. It's also not dependent on installation location, so it can be stuck wherever you want it (as long as you modify the cube_unix script so it knows where to look).

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Posted: Dec. 27 2004,01:35

Don't hold your breath for ATI linux drivers in DSL.

I went through a lot of trouble to build them, and they suck.

I'm talking unplayalby bad framerate and artifacts out the wazoo.

Did some looking, and this is the norm for ATI's linux drivers. They suck.

They aren't worth the trouble of building, and I can't repackage them, from what I understand. And they aren't worth the trouble to repackage anyways.

Sorry. Nvidia is still the only choice for 3D gaming in Linux.

-J.P.

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Posted: Dec. 27 2004,01:41

Also, we need a new Gaming forum, to keep Xfree and games question out of the way of other DSl business.

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