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Question: Improved poll about new boot logo :: Total Votes:12
Poll choices Votes Statistics
Sunset 1  [8.33%]
Water 0  [0.00%]
Wooden fame 2  [16.67%]
New Tux 1  [8.33%]
Propaganda 1 3  [25.00%]
Still going for normal Tux 5  [41.67%]
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Posted: July 05 2007,17:44 QUOTE

Why don't you then make some too?

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Posted: July 05 2007,18:24 QUOTE

I don't wanna speak for mikshaw, but I think it's safe to say his position is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." The question we have to answer isn't about which is the nicest or if it's better than the existing one, it's this: How will this benefit the DSL project and its users? Aesthetics are important, but they don't supercede utility. And utility is what DSL is all about.

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Posted: July 05 2007,19:20 QUOTE

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Why don't you then make some too?
Not really interested in doing graphic design work, particularly with the technical and creative limitations of this particular project. The only way I can really enjoy drawing is when there is no planning  or limitations...pretty much the opposite of design.

As I said, I mean no disrespect, but I think it's very important that anything changed should be an *improvement* (or at least just as good), and these images are not, technically or artistically, as good as what is already in use. If you consider the artists who develop icons and other seemingly insignificant graphic bits, most don't whip out several projects in a few days days. They create tons of concept sketches for approval or suggested improvement, and work laboriously on every detail until they have a final product that is technically clean, symbolically accurate, and aesthetically pleasing. Perhaps these were intended to be rough sketches of what's to come, but I didn't get that impression. Something as simple as cleaning up the boundaries of New Tux could make it just as good, if not better, in which case I still wouldn't care to vote but I'd have no issue with the change.

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I think it's safe to say his position is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Pretty much. I'm kinda sorry I opened my mouth at all, though. I wasn't going to get involved with this topic, since I tend to not care much about what software looks like as long as the visual does not hinder the functionality. The thing that kinda bugged me was the desire to replace something that already serves its purpose with something of lower quality. I'm not saying they're all "bad", but anything "not quite as good" is an illogical change.


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Posted: July 05 2007,19:50 QUOTE

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Something as simple as cleaning up the boundaries of New Tux could make it just as good, if not better, in which case I still wouldn't care to vote but I'd have no issue with the change.

I fixed what I could in the time I had (lunch) and I can try to clean up any of those to a certain extent if there's interest.

I'm with you on the quality of the images. That's a function of the color indexing (224 is NOT optimum for lines, including text, which is why there's so much distortion) and small geometries, not necessarily a reflection on my or curaga's or anyone's abilities or intentions. Everaldo for all I know has all day to work with his vector graphics, and he probably has the requisite hardware (e.g., tablets, etc.) to do it. I had a few minutes with GIMP and a f'ed up mouse.

Don't be sorry for speaking your mind. I certainly don't hold it against you. It's a poll, and polls measure what others think. It's not our decision what goes in or out, we only can give our input. Yours is noted.


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Posted: July 06 2007,08:33 QUOTE

Exactly. But changing this can't break anything, even if it doesn't fix anything either.
This is all about originality. DSL will stand out from the boot :)

Mik, how would you fix these? Considering the limitations, if there just aren't enough pixels, how to make a line smooth?

I can try to improve these, just that I don't really know how..


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