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Posted: Dec. 05 2007,03:48 QUOTE
Usually gui applications in linux are just a frontend for some commandline/console application - exceptions are those who just work in X (i.e. xpdf, xmms).  You can do a lot of work with the prompt with the utilities in XP (I think less in 2000, but it's still there).  There's even UNIX services (Interix) which provides a fully functional shell and a set of utilities.  Or you could install your preferred alternative.

About the dot prefix: this "hidden file" scheme is not used on windows (i.e. it's used with ntfs), and the scheme is filename.extension - so it would make sense to prevent the user from creating it.
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Posted: Dec. 05 2007,08:55 QUOTE
Quote (^thehatsrule^ @ Dec. 04 2007,22:48)
About the dot prefix: this "hidden file" scheme is not used on windows (i.e. it's used with ntfs), and the scheme is filename.extension - so it would make sense to prevent the user from creating it.

Agreed... but it would make more sense if it was consistent from both access points.  Can you tell me more about your meaning of... i.e. it's used with NTFS... ?  Thanks.

Although Windows doesn't use the hidden file naming scheme, ports of popular Linux utilities do.  I use WinCVS and copSSH, both of which are dependent on config files named in hidden file format.  If I weren't aware that the DOS prompt allows me to create these files, I wouldn't be able to add .ignore files to my CVS repositories.

I won't speculate as to why MS offers the capacity from one access point and not the other.
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Posted: Dec. 05 2007,13:17 QUOTE
DOS and its descendants (power shell might be an exception, i don't know) are practically useless when compared to Linux shells. Perhaps the gap is narrowed by adding more 3rd-party commands, but I have no idea about that. What I do know is Bash is a useful shell simply from its built-ins. Add all the other text-friendly commands that are found in any Linux system, plus the ability to chain them, and you have something that kills the command prompt in Windows.

I find it bizarre to be having a windows vs. linux argument here, and I think I'm going to stop before I get ill.

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Posted: Dec. 05 2007,16:11 QUOTE
john.martzouco:
See attributes, etc. in NTFS - search google?  If you're using a *nix based program, you should use an appropriate tool - although I'm just guessing it's just restricted from explorer to save the majority of users who don't know otherwise.

mikshaw:
I don't think anyone's having an argument here, but it's just that it seems people don't know what _can_ be used, although I agree scripting batch files in Windows is quite obscure imo, but you can still do similar things, like chaining/piping (and that UNIX shell is not 3rd-party though)
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Posted: Dec. 05 2007,16:39 QUOTE
What, Win has pipes, since when?

Their Powershell is a Bash derivative by the way :D
Seems they couldn't come up anything their own

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