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Posted: Sep. 21 2004,22:28 QUOTE

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Why if I am going to test something interesting to me I need to look for it in the long list of MyDSL programs?

Why similar programs has a different names?

If ke4nt is the person who is making final touch to every MyDSL file, this should be a question to him.
Is it very problematic to organise programs into groups?
Is it very illogical to have them in separate drawers?

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Pawel Durys


I usually don't even use the menu unless it is something I recently downloaded and want to use/explore ..  
The long lists you see in my screenshots are for eye-candy, and not my usual workspace..

Your downloaded extensions can always be accessed thru the emelfm file manager or MC from shell via "mydsl-load" .
Whether in a partition or on the CD, you can make folders to divide your saved extensions into groups, and store them there.

While the myDSL menu is handy to have if you just "loaded up" an extension, truly you folks are "pushing the limit"
on what it was designed to do by roberts, that is, simply give you one-click access to your favorite extensions..

I usually load toram from liveCD, which does not give you the l o n g list of extensions in your menu anyway ..
Habits from testing numerous pre-releases, I guess ..
I see them whenever I use my USBkey, and request the second partition be my "mydsl" in my bootup string ,
or whenever I assign another area to be my "mydsl" partition ..

Plans are already in the works for some "organizing" of the extensions into sub-groups..
It will need to tie into the myDSLgui, as well as the repository pages..
Then the sub-groups in webspace will filter down to sub-groups in your storage areas..

The reality of things now is that so many different threads, ideas, and concepts filter down to us at DSL ..
It's amazing what some people are doing, enhancing the base distro to meet their individual needs with myDSL and other customizations..
While your here discussing drawers and groups, several others are investigating how to  r e m o v e them from the distro to make it fit their needs..

Remember, 90 days ago, this subject was moot, as there were not enough contribs to even be concerned with ..
And the team at DSL is steadily making changes and improvements to the NEXT version ,
which is where their time and effort is truly needed ..

There has already been some progress made in extending the existing menu code here in the forums..
Perhaps that can be worked into a .dsl or .tar.gz for use in creating accessable sub-groups..
Then you get the o p t i o n of having it, rather than altering the base .iso ..

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Posted: Sep. 22 2004,02:06 QUOTE

By definition "extension code" would not be an acceptable dsl extension. The definition of an extension is a subset of an existing software package, be a deb or tar.gz. Custom code, or more appropriately "patches" cannot be accepted into the repository, as it would be most complex in trying to move forward and would most definitately hinder the future development of DSL, as well as the support issues it would intoduce. That is not to say that a some time, the developers of DSL could possible issue a patch. But to accept patches from the user community is not something we wish to entertain.
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Posted: Sep. 22 2004,03:18 QUOTE

Very true, I should clarify my position on that ..
Sri if my lengthy post left out DSL policy on accepting custom extensions..

I have many different "extensions" I use for making DSL "My Way"  ..
e.g.  Myfonts.dsl , All_themes.tar.gz, Flash.tar.gz, Myprinter.dsl ..

These allow me to quickly upgrade my installs, USBkeys, and transfer my
favorite workstation setups from home to work, etc...

Making your own extension to allow you to use groups or drawers to manage
your growing personal repository is a fun challenge and worthy of your time..

But customizations are for personal use, and many "contribs" I've received have
been " parked " due to custom designed apps or scripts that manipulate the base .iso  

Like my examples listed above, I have many, many extensions that will never
be distributed by DSL thru it's repositories...  But that doesn't mean that they
are not useful or beneficial to me...

I highly suggest that everyone should use the myDSL "style" to create
your own custom distro for your personal computing style and your unique hardware..

There are many times where the 50MB distro is exactly what I need to get a
job completed.. Other times, it's nice to be able to reach ito my personal
bag of tricks, and pull out a rabbit !   c:\

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Posted: Sep. 22 2004,05:23 QUOTE

myDSL system provides much flexibilty. I have always promoted "factoring out" certain portions of the filetool.lst to make your own customizations as ke4nt has done. The system allows the user to create a custom cd or a custom combo system using part hard drive, part liveCD, or other compressed installs. We provide many tools in the base system for such creation. The creativity in deployment is part of the fun of using the myDSL system.
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Posted: Sep. 22 2004,08:42 QUOTE

Well, perhaps our requests did seem a little to much...
That was not what i intended, and i apologize if it was a source of trouble.

I really enjoy DSL, and the myDSL system is imho a great thing, which is confirmed by the number of extension released, and the fact that DSL popularity increased with it's apparition.
You made a great work, but the drawback is that now you attract some perfectionists users, and some of them just don't have the skills needed to fit their needs (like me, but i try to improve) :p

I'm really impressed with your work, and really would like to be able to contribute, as i'm conscious of the amount of effort involved in such a realisation. That's why i express my ideas... while i try to acquire the needed skills to contribute myself.

Keep up the good work :laugh:


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