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Posted: Oct. 15 2007,13:59 QUOTE

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I am assuming that I need to download these files and THEN run the code is that correct.
Yes. If you happen to use the graphical MyDSL installer, it will (or should) download and install the gtk package automatically. In that case you can skip step 1
Also you only need one of the files. The second one is a stripped-down version.

On the subject of the mess:
I would hope that when you say "/bin" and "/tmp" you actually mean "/home/dsl/bin" and "/home/dsl/tmp". Using ANYTHING outside of /home for experimentation is a very bad idea.
Also, "bin" directories are used only for executable files of installed applications, and not for "downloading new stuff to". You have misread that tip. What it's actually saying is that you can use a /home/dsl/bin (also can be written $HOME/bin or ~/bin) directory for personal scripts and executable files, so you don't need to risk corrupting the base system and don't need permission from a system administrator.
For temporary stuff, I use $HOME/tmp when messing around with files I have no intention of keeping. I can wipe out that whole directory at any time without worry. The /tmp system temp directory I never use directly, but leave that for applications to use.


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Posted: Oct. 15 2007,14:41 QUOTE

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On the subject of the mess:
I would hope that when you say "/bin" and "/tmp" you actually mean "/home/dsl/bin" and "/home/dsl/tmp". Using ANYTHING outside of /home for experimentation is a very bad idea.
Also, "bin" directories are used only for executable files of installed applications, and not for "downloading new stuff to". You have misread that tip. What it's actually saying is that you can use a /home/dsl/bin (also can be written $HOME/bin or ~/bin) directory for personal scripts and executable files, so you don't need to risk corrupting the base system and don't need permission from a system administrator.
For temporary stuff, I use $HOME/tmp when messing around with files I have no intention of keeping. I can wipe out that whole directory at any time without worry. The /tmp system temp directory I never use directly, but leave that for applications to use.


No, I am actually in /tmp (that is where all of my crap is downloaded to).  I did not save anything to /bin. I DID create (just now) a /home/dsl/tmp file to use from this point on. Since I did not originally have that file when I installed DSL, the /tmp was the default for Firefox when I set up my preferences so I just left it /tmp (obviously the default was a bad idea), can I fix this?
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Posted: Oct. 15 2007,15:44 QUOTE

Where did this thunderbird come from and why such a problem?

Running gtk2 apps is really not that difficult. In fact it can be automatic with the gtk2 extension located in a mydsl directory upon boot.

The Download button is located on the display of the .info file. The display of the info file explains dependencies and other run time requirements.

mysdl extensions should not be downloaded into home directory.
Extensions are programs, i.e., large and static therefore do not need to be backup/restore upon every boot.

Typicall extensions located in home will easily overrun your backup device. The exception to this is a traditional hard drive install or hybrid persistent home with no backup.

This is explained in the "Getting Started" document.
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No, I am actually in /tmp (that is where all of my crap is downloaded to).
Ok, I think I misunderstood you. It is fine, and recommended as roberts said, to use /tmp for the mydsl download. I was thinking you were using /tmp as a temporary work directory while troubleshooting your problem. I didn't mean to suggest that would be a bad idea, but since /tmp is used by everything it can quickly get you lost in a mess of unrelated files. Personally speaking, in the case of a temporary work directory either a subdirectory in /tmp or a temp directory in /home/dsl would avoid this confusion. I see now that this is unrelated to your problem, though.

I think stupid_idiot and roberts gave you all the info you need to get Gtk2 and thunderbird running, so feel free to ignore everything I've posted here =o)


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