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Thanatos

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Posted: Jan. 13 2005,03:28

I can't get it to do it. Even playing around with 'fstab' & 'mstab' it won't read right. "image=/mnt/ubu" keeps coming up no directory. I even tried manually putting that in there. Still no go. Ubuntu on hda8 is damn near impossible to access. Man, they go security on that program that the Denver Mint would envy. I'll keep plugging with your idea. It seems the closest I've seen to what I'll need. Thanks & wish me luck. Maybe say a prayer to the linux gods, to give me a break. Thanks again.

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Thanatos
(Greek God of Death)

tjm4fun
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Posted: Jan. 13 2005,07:44

Hmm ok. I don;t know if you did this, and I kinda leave stuff out, so:
open a root console.
do a cd /
do a ls -al
see if you have a /mnt folder
if not, mkdir mnt
if you do, cd /mnt
ls -al
verify there is a ubu directory
if not, mkdir ubu

Try the mount command and see if it works. if it does, cd ubu
(you should still be in the mnt directory)
do a ls -al
cd boot
ls-al
I'm not at all familiar with ubuntu, does it use initrd during boot?
if so there is usually an initrd .img file in the boot folder. you will need to add a line similar to the one in my first example in the yoper section.

Also I may have been off in that mount command. there are 2 ways now that I think of it that you can do it in dsl.
use that mount applet in the panel, scroll the drives til it shows hda8, and click on it, to mount it. then see where it is mounted.
your /etc/fstab file should show you where dsl puts it's mount points,
I don;t remember offhand. use that moutn point in the lilo.conf

or try this mount command (the one in the last post may not have been right.
mount -t auto -o auto,ro,users /dev/hda8 /mnt/ubu

note: if you know the file system used in ubuntu, put it after the -t in place of the auto.

One thing I just thought of, I think stock dsl does not support reiser file systems, and I'll bet ubuntu is using reiserfs3. I think there is a reiserfs
module you can get for dsl, apt-get or an extension. it's been awhile since I got dsl setup on this machine, and about 5 distro's I've tried since then.
if it is resierfs, and you can;t find the extension, do the lilo bit from ubuntu. I'm pretty sure that it is installed there. copy over the lilo.conf
file, remove the /mn/ubu mount points from the ubuntu stanzas,
and add the mount point in for dsl. then create a /mnt/dsl directory
Adjust the mount command and mount /hda10, go to the directory and verify you can see it. the run the lilo command.

Thanatos

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Posted: Jan. 13 2005,12:59

Here is a copy of the lilo.conf, from the one time I got Ubuntu to load Lilo instead of grub. It's kinda long, but maybe it will give you an idea.

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# /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)',
# --------------- `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/',
# and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'.

# +---------------------------------------------------------------+
# | !! Reminder !! |
# | |
# | Don't forget to run `lilo' after you make changes to this |
# | conffile, `/boot/bootmess.txt' (if you have created it), or |
# | install a new kernel. The computer will most likely fail to |
# | boot if a kernel-image post-install script or you don't |
# | remember to run `lilo'. |
# | |
# +---------------------------------------------------------------+

# Specifies the boot device. This is where Lilo installs its boot
# block. It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which
# case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR.
#
boot=/dev/hda

# Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/')
#
root=/dev/hda8

# Enable map compaction:
# Tries to merge read requests for adjacent sectors into a single
# read request. This drastically reduces load time and keeps the
# map smaller. Using `compact' is especially recommended when
# booting from a floppy disk. It is disabled here by default
# because it doesn't always work.
#
# compact

# Installs the specified file as the new boot sector
# You have the choice between: text, bmp, and menu
# Look in lilo.conf(5) manpage for details
#
install=menu

# Specifies the location of the map file
#
map=/boot/map

# You can set a password here, and uncomment the `restricted' lines
# in the image definitions below to make it so that a password must
# be typed to boot anything but a default configuration. If a
# command line is given, other than one specified by an `append'
# statement in `lilo.conf', the password will be required, but a
# standard default boot will not require one.
#
# This will, for instance, prevent anyone with access to the
# console from booting with something like `Linux init=/bin/sh',
# and thus becoming `root' without proper authorization.
#
# Note that if you really need this type of security, you will
# likely also want to use `install-mbr' to reconfigure the MBR
# program, as well as set up your BIOS to disallow booting from
# removable disk or CD-ROM, then put a password on getting into the
# BIOS configuration as well. Please RTFM `install-mbr(8)'.
#
# password=tatercounter2000

# Specifies the number of deciseconds (0.1 seconds) LILO should
# wait before booting the first image.
#
#delay=20

# You can put a customized boot message up if you like. If you use
# `prompt', and this computer may need to reboot unattended, you
# must specify a `timeout', or it will sit there forever waiting
# for a keypress. `single-key' goes with the `alias' lines in the
# `image' configurations below. eg: You can press `1' to boot
# `Linux', `2' to boot `LinuxOLD', if you uncomment the `alias'.
#
# message=/boot/bootmess.txt
prompt
delay=10
# timeout=100

# Specifies the VGA text mode at boot time. (normal, extended, ask, <mode>)
#
# vga=ask
# vga=9
#
vga=normal

# Kernel command line options that apply to all installed images go
# here. See: The `boot-prompt-HOWTO' and `kernel-parameters.txt' in
# the Linux kernel `Documentation' directory.
#
# append=""

# If you used a serial console to install Ubuntu, this option should be
# enabled by default.
# serial=

#
# Boot up 98 by default.
#
default=98

other=/dev/hda1
label=98
# restricted
# alias=2

image=/vmlinuz
label=but
read-only
# restricted
# alias=1

initrd=/initrd.img

image=/vmlinuz.old
label=butOLD
read-only
optional
# restricted
# alias=2

initrd=/initrd.img.old

# If you have another OS on this machine to boot, you can uncomment the
# following lines, changing the device name on the `other' line to
# where your other OS' partition is.
#
# other=/dev/hda4
# label=HURD
# restricted
# alias=3

It runs: "vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386" & "initrd.img-2.6.8.1-3-386" in the /boot/ folder. In just /dev/hda8/, you have cdrom, intrid.img, vmlinuz. No numbers. Maybe that will help. I don't know why DamnSmall won't read Ubuntu & Ubuntu won't read DamnSmall. Hell, I guess they don't get along good together. Thanks for the help so far. Sooner or later I'll make it work or blow it up.

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Thanatos
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cbagger01

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Posted: Jan. 13 2005,17:54

DSL works fine with reiserFS version 3 data partitions.

I use it to access them all the time.

However, DSL does not have the reiserFS toolkit, so you cannot create and format new reseiserFS partitions or repair an existing one, although you can read and write to one without any trouble.

I don't know about reiserFS version 4 because I don't use it.

Thanatos

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Posted: Jan. 14 2005,03:57

It finally worked. I used what you said. Made a few small adjustments & got into Ubuntu. It's slow a hell loading, but I'll worry with that later. Here is a copy of my lilo.conf now.

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prompt
timeout=15
default=98
vga=791
boot=/dev/hda

lba32

#bitmap=
#bmp-colors=1,,0,2,,0
#bmp-table=120p,173p,1,15,17
#bmp-timer=254p,432p,1,0,0

other=/dev/hda1
label="98"

image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=dsl
root=/dev/hda10

image=/mnt/ubu/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386
label=but
root=/dev/hda8
append="splash=silent"
initrd=/mnt/ubu/initrd.img-2.6.8.1-3-386

# If you have another OS on this machine to boot, you can uncomment the
# following lines, changing the device name on the `other' line to
# where your other OS' partition is.
#
# other=/dev/hda4
# label=HURD
# restricted
# alias=3
other=/dev/hda5
label="Windows(hda5)"

other=/dev/hda6
label="Windows(hda6)"

other=/dev/hda7
label="Windows(hda7)"

other=/dev/hdb1
label="Windows(hdb1)"

I think I may have the hang of it now. I still have two drives around 1.5G each, waiting for other linuxes. Thanks a million. Putting it into words a DOS man can understand helps. I'm begining to understand linux talk finally. Well, About bedtime. That kitchen of Momma's still has about a week & a half's work. Need my ugly sleep. Stay cool.

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Thanatos
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