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Topic: Boot from ISO file on HDD?, (may be on the wrong board, sorry)

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melontree

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Posted: Feb. 27 2005,14:59

thanks sounds better
i dont know this lilo or grub exactly,

again, there is no floppy!

i dont bother using lilo or any other bootmanager,
i just want to boot the image from hd
like the imgage boots from cdrom.

all i want is a non confusing step by step
information how to install and point any (lilo?)
bootmanager to the dsl-image
bootrecord on HD, dsl image on HD
NO FLOPPY.

Would be very great if this option
would be a button from the dsl-live-menu

i hope if i search "frugal" i ll find help
without mentioning the word floppy.
everything boots from HD, so i dont want a floppy

the term "install" is confusing,
but boot from HD *should* be a Forumthread
like boot from USB
like boot from CDROM

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i want a F2 boot option: transfer compressed dsl to hd (leave it compressed) and install a boot record on these hd to boot every time the compressed version from hd

RustB

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Posted: Feb. 28 2005,16:50

Quote (ke4nt1 @ Feb. 27 2005,08:36)

Also, the 'bootfrom' option needs the partition, not the path.
i.e. - not " dsl bootfrom=/home/dsl/iso.iso " , but
" dsl bootfrom=/dev/hda1/iso.iso "

73
ke4nt

I tried this but it doesn't work. It gives me a message along the lines of

"Could not find image /dev/hda6/home/dsl/iso.iso"

Any other suggestions?

cbagger01

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Posted: Feb. 28 2005,17:38

Is your image located in:

C:\home\dsl\iso.iso

if it is a Windows partition, or:

/mnt/hda1/home/dsl/iso.iso

if it is a Linux partition?

and you need to make sure that your uppercase/lowercase letters are correct.

For example,

C:\Temp\Knoppix3.4\knoppix.iso

is different from

c:\temp\knoppix3.4\knoppix.iso

melontree

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Posted: Feb. 28 2005,20:44

root@ttyp0[dsl]#

lilo -T table=/dev/hdc

*270 meg hd*

Type Boot Start End Sector #sectors
1 FAT32 * 0:1:1 185:11:48 48 107088
2 Linux Native 186:0:1 371:11:48 107136 107136
3 Linux Native 372:0:1 557:11:48 214272 107136
4 Linux Swap 558:0:1 916:11:48 321408 206784

root@ttyp0[dsl]# lilo -A /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc1
root@ttyp0[dsl]# lilo -M /dev/hdc
Fatal: creat /boot/boot.1600: Read-only file system
root@ttyp0[dsl]# lilo -M /dev/hdc1
Fatal: /dev/hdc1 is not a master device with a primary parition table
root@ttyp0[dsl]# lilo -M /dev/hdc2
Fatal: /dev/hdc2 is not a master device with a primary parition table
root@ttyp0[dsl]# lilo -M /dev/hdc3
Fatal: /dev/hdc3 is not a master device with a primary parition table
root@ttyp0[dsl]# lilo -M /dev/hdc4
Fatal: /dev/hdc4 is not a master device with a primary parition table

i will reformat this drive in whatever style you want,
please advice me a TYPE number from cfdisk TYPE table
somebody suggested vfat no vfat entry from 100 entries

if i run hd install from the menu with multiple users
a one time lilo screen appears after reboot.
Only one time and i need the frugal version
not the hdinstall version.

SO AN SCRIPTING AND OR LILO EXPERT IS NEEDED
i think for a geek it takes 5 min,
for me it took already hours. if it works ONE TIME
on the hdinstall script, how to script it different and permanent?

thousands of users will find
this helpful,
anyone with an old laptop or old pc
or malicious or newbie users who reconfigure and destroy or change
system data bz accident everytime they boot their computer

so an iso boot from hd without disk or cd or usb would be great.
maybe later someone writes a script for a
onetime boot from windows
which restores the windows mbr
on the next boot.

but at the moment i would be glad to
see a working lilo script right here
permanent for the frugal boot from hd.

someone hinted me to use grub.dsl
but even this is cumbersome,
find the download,
where to install, how to bind it on boot bla ...

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i want a F2 boot option: transfer compressed dsl to hd (leave it compressed) and install a boot record on these hd to boot every time the compressed version from hd

cbagger01

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Posted: Feb. 28 2005,23:26

Before you start using LILO or GRUB on this thing, please check the syntax of your "bootfrom" parameter.

Leave a copy of the *.iso file on your hard drive.

Then boot from a CD with the appropriate "bootfrom" command to test it out.

If it works, you may be able to get something going with LILO or GRUB.

Unfortunately, the "bootfrom" command usually requires access to a /KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX file in order to start using the *.iso, so unless you edit your minirt24.gz file and copy over some drivers it will be hard to accomplish this without also copying the /KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX file over to your hard drive.

An easier approach would be to create a poorman's install with a slight tweak, IE: First copy the files on the livecd over to your hard drive.

Then create a boot floppy and copy over the linux24 and minirt24.gz files to your hard drive and then boot using LILO or GRUB and reference these files for your bootloader along with your desired "append" commands.

Finally, another option would be to first boot into MSDOS or FREEDOS and then use the loadlin program to continute with the boot process.

You could even add a "Boot:" prompt to your autoexec.bat file and then add it to the loadlin append line.

Search the forums for keyword:

loadlin*

and search ALL FORUMS and search FROM THE BEGINNING or NEWER

Hopefully one of these options will give you the solution that you are looking for.

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