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Posted: Jan. 18 2005,03:53 QUOTE

I am hearing a lot about a "Frugal" Install...and I see frugal is an option under the rc menu...what the hell is it?

What I would preferable want to do is have a working HDInstall (doesn't have to be up to date) that everything works.  7.2 came close...but MyDSL doesn't work there...
This is on a laptop, which may be what I am doing wrong...
Some linguruish help would greatly be appreciated and repaid in the amount of a six of Red Stripe....
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Posted: Feb. 27 2005,10:55 QUOTE

I haven't used it, and dont really know all that much about it, but from what I've read it's basically the iso image sitting on your hard drive and kind of being accessed like a virtual CD-ROM - basically acts the same as if you boot and operate from CD, but it's actually coming from the HD instead, so it's faster.

From what I can tell, however, this also means that any extensions you have also only run in RAM, they don't physically install (ie. extract) on the HD, so you have the same problem of only being able to run x amount of different apps before you run out of RAM.  Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.

What I'd like to see (again, may exist and I don't know about it) is essentially a blend of frugal and HD-install, where you can keep the frugal-iso seperate from some symlinked directory structure of your installed extras, so next time a new DSL is released, you just replace the iso file to update your complete setup, extras included?

(I'm sure that didn't make much sense, but I'm not really feeling very lucid at the moment :D )

PS.  When can I expect the beer to arrive?   :p


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Posted: Feb. 27 2005,12:11 QUOTE

Excellent roundup, Rogue-

I can't leave Frugal alone now.
There may be some persistent directory changes in the wind.
For now, though, I have gnu-utils and dsl-dpkg
in the root directory of the partition I installed to,
(along with my backup)
and an optional directory containing my extensions.
One good thing about it is that if you have a little disaster,
you reboot to a clean system.
Bomb proof.
And yeah, in essence, the iso, along with a boot directory
is sitting on a partition on your hard drive.
You can use Saidins Grub gear from his Doc section to boot it.
Warning- during shellscript install, lilo will run pretty much to the
exclusion of pre- existing operating systems (I think).It will overwrite the
MBR.
There are other threads covering other methods of installation,
essentially copying the KNOPPIX and boot directories on the
CD to the HD, and using Grub as bootloader.
Or if you have another Linux OS on disk which uses Grub,
you can use that.

But for a single O.S machine, you can just use the script in the menu.
It's a really good way to go, rather than HD install, where you can
load extensions you find you're not happy with, and can't get rid of them.

If you do Frugal, use the isolinux DSL, rather than Syslinux version.
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Posted: Feb. 28 2005,01:42 QUOTE

I just finished a fresh Frugal install on the HD that will be going into my new computer in a couple days when all the pieces arive.  I have been toying around with the frugal install for several days now and I love it.  I have .5 gig hda1 with the KNOPPIX and optional folders, and my backup.tar.gz.  When I ran the install script I set hda1 for backup and mydsl partition.  I then have a .5 gig hda2 setup as swap.

Then hda3 and hda4 are larger and have them set as persistent home directories, one for documents, the other for media.  Seach the BootCamp faq for the instructions on how to do that.

With my setup the way it is now, I have a fast (load to ram), bulletproof (readonly),  easily upgradeable (just replace KNOPPIX with new one) system.  Plus with the 2 persistent directories I wont have to mount my drives when I want to listen to music or something, and so it is just as seamless as HD install.

And then to top it all off, I combined XFree86 and nVidia dsls into one along with the custom config files and some desktop themes and I have a completely customized system with all the functionality and speed I want.


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Posted: Feb. 28 2005,01:56 QUOTE

Hats off !!

Fine business, jshaw!

THAT"S the way to run a linux boxen!

( God! I'm glad folks are getting the message.. )

Fast, Bulletproof, Easily Upgradable, Fully Customizable, Lean, Fast!?

What more could you want in a desktop distro?

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