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Topic: Posting this from a newly Frugalled laptop, ... now I've got some questions

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cbagger01

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Posted: July 15 2005,03:49

Persistent home and opt are a different concept than the backup.tar.gz

The persistent home or opt is a writable area on your hard drive that contains the contents of your /home or /opt directories so they are located on your hard drive instead of your ramdisk

The backup/restore process is a script that creates a backup.tar.gz archive file that contains all of the files that you are saving in your /home/dsl/.filetool.lst except for anything excluded from saving in /home/dsl/.xfiletool.lst

So you can backup and restore just about any file that you choose. Not only files that are located inside /home or /opt

So if you are using backup/restore AND persistent home, then you are backing up your files into the backup.tar.gz archive and you are also restoring the files upon bootup. But of course your /home directory is not located in a ramdisk so it must be overwriting the persistent files upon restore.

Also, the 100% means "100% free" , not "100% fully used"

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Posted: July 15 2005,03:58

OK, so the filetool.lst and backup.tar.gz work in tandem, backing up and restoring specified files from the ramdisk. Got it.

And that's separate from the concept of persistent home and opt. Got it.

**EDITED** Waaaait a minute ... I just looked back through the frugal installation script and realized it never asked anything about defining persistent home or opt directories ... only default backup/restore and mydsl locations. Looks like I need to look through the forums and find out how to do that. No wonder I was so confusticated. Thanks!!!

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Posted: July 15 2005,04:31

EDIT: I didn't see the second page when i posted this =op

The backup.tar.gz is your backup archive, which generally does get rebuilt during shutdown and extracted during boot. However, it is not the entire contents of home and opt. It contains only the files listed in filetool.lst.
If your home and opt are in ramdisk, then they are not persistent. Maybe you specified the partition incorrectly. It should be "home=hda3" and "opt=hda3". If you put "home=/dev/hda3" I'm guessing it will fail.

If the persistent home and opt fail, you'll end up with the directories in /ramdisk, as is the default setup. In this case hda3 will not be mounted, and you won't be able to write to it until it is mounted.

I'm pretty sure the 100% is what is available, but i'm sleepy, so can't remember exactly. In any case, if it's displaying a swap partition i assume it is available, so that probably isn't the problem. It could be the 200mhz processor, but more likely is something else...maybe the video device?

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Posted: July 15 2005,13:09

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It should be "home=hda3" and "opt=hda3". If you put "home=/dev/hda3" I'm guessing it will fail. If the persistent home and opt fail, you'll end up with the directories in /ramdisk, as is the default setup. In this case hda3 will not be mounted, and you won't be able to write to it until it is mounted.

THANK YOU ALL!!! I guess I need to start over, as I now see that the backup/restore scheme and persistent home and opt are somewhat redundant. I can't think of anything outside of home and opt that would need to be restored at startup, with the exception of some pieces of .dsl packages ... and those are loaded automatically if I put them in hda3.

Thanks again to all of you that answered, you really helped. Now I can come back after getting it to work and answer questions for others that are in my shoes.

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In any case, if it's displaying a swap partition i assume it is available, so that probably isn't the problem. It could be the 200mhz processor, but more likely is something else...maybe the video device?

Well, like I said ... nothing else is slow. Dillo runs great, and I assume it demands more out of the network device and system in general than the MyDSL browser. I am reinstalling in a few minutes, maybe it will mysteriously disappear then. Thanks again!

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Posted: July 15 2005,13:34

Quote (SomeGuyWithDSL @ July 14 2005,19:28)

5. When I click on a category, such as "Games," in MyDSL, it takes a verrrrry long time for the next window to appear. 3-5 minutes, usually. Nothing else on the system is running even remotely slowly, what could be causing a delay right there?

I also find that this happens to me sometimes. For me it seems to be the first time that I go to use it. I guess I have never had the patience to wait and see how long it would take to finish I usually just kill it and do it again. The second time it seems to work in a timely manner. I dont have any clue as to why it may do this. Just thought I would let you know it happens to me too sometimes.

By the way I have learned about some details that I was still fuzzy on, thanks all.

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