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arew264

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Posted: April 18 2005,23:55

Well, I think I better back up a step here. SHould I use OpenSSL or GnuTLS? I need one of the two because I have a google mail account that use ssl/tls. If someone could provide a walkthrough of how to get this whole fetchmail + procmail + imap + msmtp setup to work, I would be very thankful. I know, however that that would be pretty timeconsuming. Could someone please help me figure out how to do this?

pr0f3550r

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Posted: Feb. 16 2006,11:55

I think having a small mail server in the shape of a .dsl app, is useful.
I, for example, cannot use my ISP smtp outside the local network.
Besides, I need a local mail server only for a few minutes...
About the fact that the mail server can be blocked by the likes of AOL, etc. I used to work for AOL, it's rather the opposite. The AOL mail server is blocked by manu ISP's.
It's easy to see if your local mail server is blacklisted. Send an email to yahoo, gmail and the likes. If you get it, You are not blacklisted.

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Posted: Feb. 18 2006,00:20

I don't know in what capacity you used to work for AOL, but it is a fact that they block all email from mail servers operating on dynamic ip addresses.

My personal experience is that I couldn't send email to my best friend who used wmconnect, a Wal-Mart branded version of AOL. The bounced email stated that it was AOL's policy not to accept email from ip addresses originating from competitors residential ip blocks. They're pissy about competitors commercial ip blocks as well, but that's a whole 'nother story.

If you're able to send email from your personal mail server, and you're using AOL as an ISP, it's a good possibility that they're not blocking your mail because you're using their network.

Personally, I'm all against something small like DSL including a mail server by default because, in all likelyhood, something like DSL, that can be fit on a USB stick, is a tempting tool for spammers to use to sneak into a cyber-cafe and send out a few hundred-thousand spams.

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pr0f3550r

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Posted: Feb. 18 2006,13:29

Grim:

a) I used to send a few emails from my free webmail account to my ex-colleagues at AOL and I frequently got a message from postmaster saying, more or less, they wouldn,t bother to send mail to AOL as it is known spammer .
Many professional spammers use the aol smtp server from within and live happily ever after.

b) who cares about AOL. They have their proprietary protocols, may they rot in hell (and that's when I'm calm!)

c)Many legitimate Linux distro come with a mail server up and running after installation . Some names? Debian, Ubuntu, Suse and that's only the ones I verified personally

d) In my case I use public libraries and I'm always behind static IP addresses.

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Posted: Feb. 18 2006,15:17

a) Most spam that appears to originate from AOL has forged headers and is usually from some other domain.

b) Hallelujah Prof. May the hedged garden burn to the ground.

c) As far as I know, Debian, Ubuntu and SuSE don't come in a USB-stick variety that can be loaded from a running Windows install.
DSL USB-stick + sendmail = spammers best friend.

d) The static ip is only important if it's a consistent one. Bouncing your mail server from one static ip address to another is no different than having a dynamic ip address. The changing ip address will prevent anyone from replying to your mail. If you send email from your server but can't receive a reply, what's the use of a mail server? Spammers would find this ideal.

I do understand the need to have a central location for email, it's the reasons for the popularity of webmail such as gmail, yahoo mail, hotmail, etc and IMAP instead of POP3. Personally, I ssh into my box at home and use mutt from there to keep all of my email in one place.

The dynamic ip address can be overcome by using a dynamic DNS service like no-ip.com but if you have access to a static ip, it'd be better to set up a domain name and point it at your permanent mail server.

I think that there are responsible people that can make use of a mail server extension. On the whole, I suspect that such an extension would be abused by spammers rather than used for legitimate purposes.

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