Release Candidates :: DSL v2.4RC1



I've been using DSL 2.4RC1 for two and a half days from liveCD (over weekend).  I installed about ten games for my kids to have something to play with.  They loved it!  But they are very familiar with the penguin already.  My son said, "Dad, can you stop fooling around so I can play the bubble game?"  

A few observations:
 I guess I didn't know the window pager was called fluxter, but I have a problem with it.  maybe like Zoop, I don't know how to use it.  It looks like I can grab the program icons in the pager window and move them around, but the real windows don't move when dragged.  Not a big deal, unless talking about my next issue.

When I load and run the Opera 8.5 cloop, it opens a window with the top or program bar above the top of the screen.  I can resize the window or I can minimize it, but when I minimize it goes out of the viewable area and you can't get it back.  You also can't move the window if you can't grab the title bar.

I loaded probably 15 cloops and mydsl pkgs and they all worked great!  I really like the system monitoring embedded in the wallpaper (torsmo).  It seems like there is more useful info available and it is more readable than the old dockapps.  But those were cool too.

I think I'm getting 1024x768 and maybe 16 or 24 colors, but I'm wondering if there has been any talk of getting a ATI driver into a mydsl like nvidia or if there is a way to get more out of one of these cards easily while in LiveCD mode?  This is the only box I currently have an ATI card in.  Radeon 7000.   More screen real estate is always good.

Even with all this stuff loaded, my CPU barely was stressed, maybe 9% max and memory load was relatively low.  I have plenty in there, but it was nice having it all in ram and still having plenty left over.

Is it possible to install DSL and to migrate it to an updateable, apt-get-able Debian like system while maintaining the DSL look and feel and low resource requirements?   Maybe DSL approved and stable repositories like Ubuntu.  Just a thought.
AFAIK the ATI drivers require you to be running an ati 8500 or later for them to work properly.  So sadly I don't think the answer to that question is going to be anything but "no" at the moment. :(

Avey
Dear ripcrd6

"I guess I didn't know the window pager was called fluxter, but I have a problem with it.  maybe like Zoop, I don't know how to use it.  It looks like I can grab the program icons in the pager window and move them around, but the real windows don't move when dragged.  Not a big deal, unless talking about my next issue.

When I load and run the Opera 8.5 cloop, it opens a window with the top or program bar above the top of the screen.  I can resize the window or I can minimize it, but when I minimize it goes out of the viewable area and you can't get it back.  You also can't move the window if you can't grab the title bar."

yes, my problem is almost the same as yours, but with a laptop. With a mouse and a wheel in the middle of it, you can, as k34nt1 said, move from one box of fluxter to another one. But without a mouse and a wheel, so with a simple touch pad, you can't, even if, as you said, you can move windows in the boxes.

I hope that it is possible to expand the point-and-click-in-the-boxes features for fluxbox in order to navigate with point-and-click; another possibility would be to assign a key combination for the navigation from one to another box (as strg+tab in kde). It would be very useful in my opinion.

Concerning your windows size problem: I have had the same problem with one or two extensions (limewire f.ex.); when the top of the window disapear, you can go to the box in fluxter in order to move the window from the top to the bottom a little bit, since you see again the top of the window in order to resize it.

"I think I'm getting 1024x768 and maybe 16 or 24 colors"

a bit off your point: I have 1024x768 with 24 colors (nvidia nv5m64), though with a frugal dsl on my hd. It works very nice. I didn't find any occasion to say it earlier, but now.

"Even with all this stuff loaded, my CPU barely was stressed, maybe 9% max and memory load was relatively low"

With my AMD 800Mhz, I use between 11%-15% of CPU ressources while using 64% of my RAM (at 313 MB) with 50 processes loaded, and heavy apps such as openoffice.uci, thunderbird (gtk2).... Under this conditions, DSL works perfectly.  

yours
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Quote (ripcrd6 @ April 18 2006,12:08)
Is it possible to install DSL and to migrate it to an updateable, apt-get-able Debian like system while maintaining the DSL look and feel and low resource requirements?   Maybe DSL approved and stable repositories like Ubuntu.  Just a thought.

You can do a full hd-install but that has pros and cons.
You might have problems when upgrading the whole distro.

About Ubuntu, their repositories are not binary compatible with Debian, and I'd argue whether Ubuntu is stable or not.
No changes have been made to fluxbox or fluxter in this release candidate.

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When I load and run the Opera 8.5 cloop, it opens a window with the top or program bar above the top of the screen.  I can resize the window or I can minimize it, but when I minimize it goes out of the viewable area and you can't get it back.  You also can't move the window if you can't grab the title bar.


I believe the usual way to handle this in fluxbox is...

You don't need to grab the title bar to move a window.
You can press Alt and Left mouse button to move a window.

When you minimize a window, you can get it back by clicking on its title in the center section of the fluxbox task bar located at the bottom of the screen.
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