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136  Damn Small Linux / Laptops / Re: Problem reading cylinder 0, expected 18532?, read -1 after format floppy disk on: July 07, 2013, 06:11:55 AM
DSL hasn't had a major release since around 2008, so even after a few years, your version is probably pretty close to the current one. Your version of Bon Echo is the same as mine which came with DSL 4.4.10.

Apt-get is for updating individual programs, not the whole operating system. Even for updating individual software it has limited use because the Debian Woody package archive it would download software from hasn't been updated for years. You should be able to update the version of DSL on the memory stick by simply copying files to it with another machine (perhaps making a backup of its contents before hand). Have a look in the DSL Wiki for more info on updating.

I don't think GRUB can read from a CD without additional software. If you want to give it a try anyway, make sure to make a copy of your menu.lst file and place it out of the way so that you can restore it if things get messed up. Did you try looking at the machine's BIOS settings to see if you can enable CD booting?
137  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: internet connection - wired on: July 04, 2013, 10:00:59 AM
If "eth0" shows up in the ifconfig listing, then a driver has been loaded, however it may not be working. From a quick Google search, your computer looks like a pretty new model. The version of the Linux kernal included in DSL is pretty old, some more modern hardware drivers aren't included with it.

Look up the chipset of your computer's motherboard and search for when Linux driver software was developed for it. You might be able to load the drivers as modules on startup, but that relies on them supporting the linux Kernel version used (2.4.31).

If the support isn't available, you might want to try DSL-N which uses the 2.6 kernel. Or you could wait for John to release his promised new version of DSL that sounds much like a new DSL-N, supporting newer hardware but bloating the distro somewhat in terms of size and resource usage.
138  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Start program in terminal in its own directory from DSL menu link on: June 16, 2013, 03:02:52 AM
I've had this problem for a while, but I've finally admitted defeat at trying to solve it myself.

I have a Java program (replicatorG) that will only launch from a terminal in its own directory. I am trying to launch it from the DSL menu using aterm, but so far nothing has worked.

Here is a list of what I have tried, not in order:
  • Launching it using the aterm option "-e" followed by either replicatorg (directory specified in $PATH) or the full path name. Window appears for a moment and then closes with an error.
  • Launching it without aterm by enterring "replicatorg" or the full path as the program in .jwmrc. Nothing happens when clicked.
  • Creating a two-line script that first "cd"s to replicatorg's directory, then runs replicatorg. Thereafter entering this into .jwmrc so that it is executed by aterm. I since learnt that scripts can't change their directory, so this did the same as the first attempt.
  • Placing an "alias" command in .bashrc that causes the directory to be changed to that of replicatorg with the command "repgdir", then using "repgdir" where the "cd" command was in the script from above. This didn't change a thing, seems Bash is too smart for these sort of tricks.
  • Give up. Simply open a terminal and type "replicatorg" manually to start it each time. This works, but severely harms my pride.

I think I read once online about ways to do this with other distros, but it was going to be too much trouble to modify DSL to use the same methods.

Well any help will be greatly appreciated. If I ever discover an anwser to my problem, I'll post it here.
139  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: Need Help Installing/Running Wireshark on: June 16, 2013, 02:17:50 AM
There are a few options for how to do this. Perhaps the most user-friendly is to use the MyDSL browser. Open the DSL menu, go to MyDSL and click on the link to the browser. Once it is open, click on "Install Local" in the top right corner, then navigate to where you have the UCI file and select it. Once it has unpacked, a link for your program will likely appear below the one for the MyDSL browser.

Note that a UCI will not install itself permanently, and will be lost when you turn off your computer. Look in the DSL wiki for how to amke it load on startup.
140  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: Tor does not work on: June 16, 2013, 01:04:52 AM
I'm a bit late with this reply I know, but I only just learnt the details of how Tor works so I figure I'm now less likely to say something meaningless.

It looks like the Tor binary was compiled on a machine with libssl version 0.9.8 installed. That package has version 0.9.7 and DSL comes as standard with version 0.9.6 (according to the packages list on the website). So the package author should have included their libssl with their Tor package, however as they didn't, your only option is to compile something yourself.

Check if a version of Tor you're happy with will work with libssl 0.9.6 (already in DSL) or 0.9.7. If so, download the Tor source and compile it yourself (info on how to do this is online, look in the old forum archives). If not, download the source for a version of Tor and compatible version of Openssl, then compile them (Openssl first, Tor afterwards). If you get the latest version of Tor, it will probably need more dependancies than Openssl (made clear as errors when you run the configure script), these again (unless already in the My-DSL respository) will need to be downloaded and compiled before you compile Tor.

Good luck! If it's your first time compiling, just think what you'll learn!
141  Damn Small Linux / HD Install / Re: Apt-get update doesn't work!!! on: June 16, 2013, 12:28:17 AM
You do realise that the Debian 3 "Woody" packages are no longer updated?

As DSL doesn't support later Debian packages and the My-DSL respository is no longer frequently updated, I usually compile software myself if I need a new version.

As for using the old Woody packages, they are available on the web from "archive.debian.net". I don't remember trying that site with apt-get though.
142  Damn Small Linux / USB booting / Re: HELP HP N54 Microserver won't boot DSL (Newbie) on: June 01, 2013, 12:19:55 AM
I am at a bit of a quandry as I have also got Lubuntu 13 loaded and I am wondering if it's easier to strip lubuntu down even further or if it's footprint is small enough, then it may be happier with modern hardware.

Well I would have thought that all you'd need in this case was support for SATA HDDs (boot option "sata", in case you didn't know) and your Network Card. DSL should support these well enough, so I don't see what difference it would make.

Lubuntu will have a better range of packages though, so you probably won't need to compile anything. On the other hand, stripping stuff out might be a tricky task, and you won't bring it down to a DSL size/resource usage. Do you know about TinyCore? It's something of a spin-off of DSL that has better modern hardware support and comes with practically no pre-installed software but a GUI and package downloader (depending on what version you choose). The idea is that you download everything you want from the package archive. The archive is more up to date than DSL's, but far smaller than the Ubuntu one that Lubuntu uses.

I Like the look of DSL and especially the top right hand side Systems specs App (Not sure what that's called?)

Yes I like the DSL interface as well. I like the more basic approach to that of the mainstream distros. The desktop status program is called "Torsmo" (torsmo.sourceforge.net), it can be configured quite extensively by editing the config file "/home/dsl/.torsmorc" (remember to change user to "root", otherwise you won't have permission to modify it).
143  Non-DSL Topics / water cooler / Re: Ignore on: May 30, 2013, 07:13:56 AM
Don't know of an ignore button. You've probably noticed the "Report to Moderator" button, but I think the problem should be obvious enough anyway.

By the way, posting with the title "Ignore" isn't the best way to get a topic noticed.
144  Damn Small Linux / USB booting / Re: HELP HP N54 Microserver won't boot DSL (Newbie) on: May 30, 2013, 07:02:39 AM
I actually installed DSL on a Proliant from ~2005. These "Microservers" look like rather different beasts though. Something like a server designed by people who normally work on desktop PCs.

Anyway, as for booting, as long as you're an "almost complete newbie", have you set up the BIOS for USB/CD booting? Usually this is called "Boot Priorities" or something similar in the BIOS settings. For how to get to the BIOS settings, look at the manual. USB or CD have to be before the HDD/s for them to boot.

DSL comes with BetaFTPd, but it's hard to find docs for (I might have found some information once, but I'd have to check on another computer, ask if you want me to check for it). It doesn't have a GUI either, so you might want to look for something more like FileZilla. ProFTPd doesn't have a GUI either (at least not as standard, there might be separate interfaces available), it is much easier to find docs for though.

can't help you with remote access in DSL though (haven't tried it), try looking in the MyDSL repository for remote access programs.
145  Damn Small Linux / Laptops / Re: Problem reading cylinder 0, expected 18532?, read -1 after format floppy dis on: May 26, 2013, 12:25:43 AM
The desktop right corner shows that I'm running linux 2.4.31 on i686.

Ah, you do know that 2.4.31 is the version of your Linux kernel, not of DSL? That kernel version is the same one that comes with the latest DSL. To find your DSL version, go to the DSL menu, then "System>System Stats". The DSL version should be printed in the top line of the CPU tab that opens with the stats window.

As for the boot floppy, looks like you'd better try another floppy disk, or failing that, another drive. Though having just looked up the specs on your model, it should be able to boot to a CD anyway. Check your BIOS boot settings and make sure it is trying to boot to the CD drive.

By the way, 256MB RAM should be fine for CD burning, though I admit that the cdw program is quite tricky. I found a webpage that explained the process, but I don't know which computer I bookmarked it on.
146  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: text cursor dissapearing in text boxes, using DSL-4.4.10, please help on: May 21, 2013, 07:01:53 AM
I'm afraid I haven't seen your problem before, but I can say that the Ebay search bar doesn't work at the best of times with the old Firefox that comes with DSL. I search by modifying the text in the URL.

The other things should work though.

Presumably you compiled "Processing", so try "make uninstall" and if the problem goes away, play with the configure options to see if you can disable what's causing the problem for the next install. Or if uninstalling doesn't work, do the same and just keep re-installing DSL, it's usually fairly quick on modern PCs.
147  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: configuring packages on: April 22, 2013, 07:35:35 AM
Source Code is the common way to distribute programs for Linux so that they can be used with a range of different distributions. If a project on Sourceforge offers a Linux version, it probably has the source package available, but many linux programs from elsewhere on the net will have them too. They usually have the "tar.gz" extension (or tar.xz, tar.bz2). Note though that the ".tar.gz" packages in the MyDSL repository are not Source Code packages.

For your second problem, if you downloaded a package for the program you're using, it might be looking for GIMP-print when it isn't installed on your computer. If you compiled it, you should check for a "./configure" option to disable GIMP-print. If the program can't run without GIMP-print for some reason, you might need to install it, though I'm not sure if it is compatible with DSL.
148  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: configuring packages on: April 19, 2013, 10:28:29 PM
"./configure" is a script included with most source code packages for Linux. Unlike the other commands, it exists in the directory of the program you want to compile (hence why you type "./" before it). You don't download it separately.

Often simply typing "./configure" will set things up automatically as required for your system. However you can type "./configure --help", or to scroll through the text, "./configure --help | less", to see a list of options that may be added to the "./configure" line in order to make specific choices about the compillation.

Also, just a note that gcc doesn't actually control the "make" command, there is a specific program called "make" for that, but gcc is used by it to compile the package.
149  Damn Small Linux / User Feedback / Re: New to DSL. 1. unable to connect to network. 2. Mouse not working. 3.Need XL app on: April 16, 2013, 09:34:37 AM
1. Have you attempted to use the iwconfig GUI in DSL? You can get to it from the DSL menu under "Setup>Net Setup". If that says it can't find the interface, try opening a terminal and typing "iwconfig", if your network card has been identified by DSL, then it shoulld be shown in the list of interfaces presented. Use the  name associated with your interface in the "device" box of the iwconfig GUI.

2. Are you using a laptop or desktop PC? Check your BIOS for settings relating to the mouse. I think there is a particular setting that tends to upset the mouse support, but I forgot what it was.

3. I don't think there is a package for Libre, there's a good chance it needs features that aren't available in DSL. There is an old version of Open Office in the MyDSL respository if you need more than the word processor and spreadsheet included with DSL.
150  Damn Small Linux / User Feedback / Re: "Updating" an old version of DSL, which way to go? on: March 31, 2013, 09:56:12 PM
Apt won't work anymore with DSL, the new Debian packages aren't compatible with DSL. To use the Boot Floppy Tool or MyDSL, you need to set the new URLs. In the more modern DSLs, you can go to "Apps>Net>Download Mirror Selector" in the DSL menu. If this wasn't in your version, there was also a file you could edit but I forgot its name, look in the old forums.

Regarding the endless floppy access, when an OS does this to me (I can't think of a PC OS that doesn't) and I can't kill the process trying to access the disk, I just take out the disk. Perhaps it's a risk, but I've seen inside floppy drives and I doubt it can harm the disk. Not quite as sure about the drive, but I figure it's OK. Now if you've written or changed something on the disk though, there is a risk of corrupting it if you can't unmount it afterwards, not sure if this applies to your situation.

Now as for writing floppy images to disk. simply place the image somewhere, it should have the ".img" extension. Now put in your floppy to be written, remembering not to mount it, and in a terminal do the command "dd if=<image file> of=/dev/fd0" where "<image file>" is the path of your desired disk image. This will also work for the DSL boot floppy if you grab the image manually from the web.
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