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226  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: configuring packages on: April 19, 2013, 10:28:29 PM
"./configure" is a script included with most source code packages for Linux. Unlike the other commands, it exists in the directory of the program you want to compile (hence why you type "./" before it). You don't download it separately.

Often simply typing "./configure" will set things up automatically as required for your system. However you can type "./configure --help", or to scroll through the text, "./configure --help | less", to see a list of options that may be added to the "./configure" line in order to make specific choices about the compillation.

Also, just a note that gcc doesn't actually control the "make" command, there is a specific program called "make" for that, but gcc is used by it to compile the package.
227  Damn Small Linux / User Feedback / Re: New to DSL. 1. unable to connect to network. 2. Mouse not working. 3.Need XL app on: April 16, 2013, 09:34:37 AM
1. Have you attempted to use the iwconfig GUI in DSL? You can get to it from the DSL menu under "Setup>Net Setup". If that says it can't find the interface, try opening a terminal and typing "iwconfig", if your network card has been identified by DSL, then it shoulld be shown in the list of interfaces presented. Use the  name associated with your interface in the "device" box of the iwconfig GUI.

2. Are you using a laptop or desktop PC? Check your BIOS for settings relating to the mouse. I think there is a particular setting that tends to upset the mouse support, but I forgot what it was.

3. I don't think there is a package for Libre, there's a good chance it needs features that aren't available in DSL. There is an old version of Open Office in the MyDSL respository if you need more than the word processor and spreadsheet included with DSL.
228  Damn Small Linux / User Feedback / Re: "Updating" an old version of DSL, which way to go? on: March 31, 2013, 09:56:12 PM
Apt won't work anymore with DSL, the new Debian packages aren't compatible with DSL. To use the Boot Floppy Tool or MyDSL, you need to set the new URLs. In the more modern DSLs, you can go to "Apps>Net>Download Mirror Selector" in the DSL menu. If this wasn't in your version, there was also a file you could edit but I forgot its name, look in the old forums.

Regarding the endless floppy access, when an OS does this to me (I can't think of a PC OS that doesn't) and I can't kill the process trying to access the disk, I just take out the disk. Perhaps it's a risk, but I've seen inside floppy drives and I doubt it can harm the disk. Not quite as sure about the drive, but I figure it's OK. Now if you've written or changed something on the disk though, there is a risk of corrupting it if you can't unmount it afterwards, not sure if this applies to your situation.

Now as for writing floppy images to disk. simply place the image somewhere, it should have the ".img" extension. Now put in your floppy to be written, remembering not to mount it, and in a terminal do the command "dd if=<image file> of=/dev/fd0" where "<image file>" is the path of your desired disk image. This will also work for the DSL boot floppy if you grab the image manually from the web.
229  Damn Small Linux / HD Install / Re: PXE Install? on: March 26, 2013, 10:00:03 AM
Well I've never had anything to do with PXE booting, but if I were you, I would try installing DOS and then using Loadlin.
See here, you'll have to skip the first step, of course:

I haven't done this before with DSL, though I have with another distro and it worked quite well. You can install a WIndows with DOS such as Win 95/98, boot into DOS and it should work from that.
230  Damn Small Linux / HD Install / Re: PXE Install? on: March 16, 2013, 01:23:21 AM
If you can get your hands on a USB CD drive, that might be worth a try. I used one to install DSL on a notebook a few years newer than yours. Sadly only to give up thanks to lack of drivers afterwards.
231  Damn Small Linux / DSL Ideas and Suggestions / Re: Wiki on DSL? on: February 26, 2013, 10:18:53 AM
As it happens, M-Disc DVDs actually are the archival discs I have in mind.

(The company put out a press release last month that in the second quarter of this year, they'll be releasing Blu-Ray M-Discs, which they claim will even be writable on regular drives. Given the seven-fold increase in capacity, I'll likely be waiting for that product to store the main archives on.)

Ha, so I'm preaching to the converted then. Interesting that they are going for Blu-Ray disks compatible with standard recorders, I thought that Blu-Ray laser power was getting pretty darn strong, but I didn't realise it had reached this point yet. I heard that earlier drives have lower powered lasers than the later ones though, so it will be interesting to see how that works out.

I'm quite happy to learn how to compile - for one, I'm rather fond of the screensaver I've been using for years ( http://www.fourmilab.ch/skyscrsv/ ), and if I can work out both how to compile it (from the source at http://www.fourmilab.ch/skyscrsv/download/3.1b/skyscrsc.zip ) and get it arranged so it can be a Linux screensaver instead of just a standalone executable, I'll be even happier. I figure if-and-when I can figure out, or find, how to manage that, I'll be much closer to working out how to recompile Kiwix for DSL.

OK, I'm afraid you're a bit confused over the nature of compiling Linux software from source. That screensaver is made for Windows, and the source code simply contains the code used to program it for Windows so that curious Visual C programmers can satisfy themselves. However packages like the linux source for Kiwix are (a) designed to run on Linux and (b) include documentation, a configuration script and a roughly standardised layout that means that any old PC user who never programed a computer to say "Hello, World" can still get the software installed.

Basically, the lesson to learn is that "source code" does not mean "Linux". That screensaver in particular would rely on many features particular to Windows in order to function, in fact I expect a complete re-write would be required for it to work in Linux. Often Linux compatible source code is in a gzip compressed tarball, ie. with a ".tar.gz" extension. In rare cases (generally for old and obscure software), it might be Zip compressed, but usually the ".tar.gz" extension is a good rule of thumb. Err, except for the ".tar.gz" extensions in the MyDSL repository, they are pre-compiled but compressed in the same way.

Still, I agree with starting small. It's much more rewarding to get a small program with few or no dependencies to run than to begin with a complex dependency chain. Looks like you'll have to find a new Planetarium screensaver for Linux though.
232  Damn Small Linux / DSL Ideas and Suggestions / Re: Wiki on DSL? on: February 25, 2013, 09:33:25 AM
First of all, I'd think twice about using even archival disk media. It usually uses a metallic layer that can't corrode as in normal discs, however I don't believe it does much to prevent the deterioration of the organic layer which the laser burns to store the data. There's lots of controversy about this though. By the way, disc technology really hasn't changed since the CD days (hence the following links), the lasers have just got better.


I suppose the discs you got say they are guaranteed for 100/200 years. When I read that though, I just think of the VHS tapes I have with "Lifetime Guarantee" written on their jackets. Can you imagine trying to get compensation after you lost a precious home movie on VHS tape that was recorded twenty plus years ago? Heck the company might not even exist.

Of course, then you have to wonder what media is suitable. Mechanical HDDs are probably in the same category as Floppy disks in term on non-suitability due to their mechanical complexity. I don't know the facts, but it seems like far too long relying on the charge storage of Flash Media. Tape drives? Well the majority of VHS tapes lasted all right (though some of those guarantees probably deserve to be claimed) and they often use similar technology, but I wouldn't recommend it. I read an article about Bell Labs using some "holographic" technique to use lasers for burning data into crystals, fun for a read anyway.

However I think the best bet is with Millenniata's "M-Discs" (http://www.milenniata.com/). As much as the advertising screams to me those old "last until we're out of business" guarantees, the principals seem very sound. With the high powered laser diodes of today (trust me, they are), there's no real need for special organic dyes when a good laser can burn into the solid surface of the disc. You will need to buy a compatible DVD drive though, and their rather expensive discs.

Anyway, onto topic, it looks like Kiwix was only released last year, so the chances of finding it in the repository are pretty much zero (especially seeing as I did a search). You can forget about using the Debian package at that link, DSL was compatible with Debian 3.0 "Woody" which is now long obsolete. The Debian "Sid" package you linked to is for a version very different from DSL and just won't work.

As a result you will have to compile the software yourself, if it is at all compatible. Indeed with such new software, it could well be incompatible with the 2.4 kernel version used in DSL. Still, well worth a try if you're up to it. There are some packages in the DSL repository for setting up a compiling environment in DSL. Basically you'll need "gnu-utils", "gcc1-with-libs", "compile-3.3.5" and "gcc-2.95". Though "compile-3.3.5" is getting a bit old now so you may end up having to compile some new programs to use instead of the old versions it includes. Then you need to download the source of Kiwix, look at the "README" and "INSTALL" files from the tar.gz archive and work out the dependencies it needs (many won't be in DSL by default, or will be too old). You now need to find and download these and try to install them (look at the instructions in the INSTALL file, or just do the normal "./configure --help | less", choose arguments to append, if any, "./configure <args>", "make", "make install"). While doing these, you will find the "configure" script will probably want yet more dependencies before it can install some dependencies. Yes dependencies need dependencies (especially in DSL), this can go on for a while. Then you may well at some point find a dependency that just doesn't like kernel 2.4, at which point you can either find a way around it, move to DSL-N with the 2.6 kernel, or give up.

Well that's got to have put you off. I'm not saying that it's bound to be that much work, but I know it can be (anyone else tried to compile "glom" database software for DSL?). Go on, give it a go, look what you'll get out of it.
233  Damn Small Linux / Laptops / Re: Setting up DSL Wireless PCMCIA? on: February 10, 2013, 12:12:22 AM
He he, naming a WiFi chipset "AirForce One", my respect for Broardcom just went up some small ammount.

Anyway, I posted a description of this process a while ago:

Try to follow that if you can.
234  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: Booting DSL iso with grub2 on: January 28, 2013, 02:30:17 AM
Well if you can't configure the BIOS to work, the bootable floppy disk gets around the inability of your BIOS to boot from your USB memory stick. The BIOS simply boots to the floppy disk, this contains the software that may then load Linux from the USB memory stick.

Have a look here:
235  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: Booting DSL iso with grub2 on: January 26, 2013, 10:00:28 PM
There is plenty of info about this in the wiki (www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/). You should be able to boot from USB by using the bootable floppy disk (or other methods), then install to HDD after that.
236  Damn Small Linux / Laptops / Re: Acer aspire one (a110) wlan don't work on: January 15, 2013, 02:36:48 AM
This link:
Lists a card with the ID AR242x, probably a similar card to the one in your laptop, as requiring the ath5k driver. This is an expansion of the MadWifi drivers that are included in DSL but there is no extension for ath5k in the DSL repository. In fact it might not even be compatible with the kernel version used in DSL (2.4.31).

However if it is, you will have to either copy the modules that make up the driver from the internet or other distributions making sure they are for the same kernel version, or compile the driver from the source code.

To confirm that the built in drivers aren't working, you can open a terminal and type "lsmod", if "ath_pci" isn't listed in the output, then the built-in MadWifi drivers haven't loaded.
237  Damn Small Linux / Laptops / Re: Acer aspire one (a110) wlan don't work on: January 12, 2013, 12:10:29 AM
I take it you have tried the iwconfig GUI in the DSL menu under "Setup>Net Setup" and changed "device" from "eth0" to "ath0" before entering your network details. In that case, what error message did you get?

Many Atheros chipset devices are supported by drivers included in DSL, but if your one isn't detected, you may have to track down and configure another driver.
238  Damn Small Linux / User Feedback / Re: I am trying to create an image of an ultra light weight Linux that is deploy on: January 11, 2013, 11:56:40 PM
In anwser to your questions. First you need to decide whether you want a frugal or Hard Disk installation. I suggest you look at information on the DSL Wiki in order to work out which option you want.

Installation is simple. If the drive isn't already partitioned, do so using cfdisk, fdisk etc.. Then boot the DSL live CD and select "Install to Hard Drive" or one of the Frugal Install bootloader options (Grub is most popular) from Apps>Tools in the DSL menu. Now just follow the prompts to install DSL to the HDD of your choice.

However this will not get you far with the 486 laptop because DSL needs a minimum of 16MB RAM to run, and even then you would be limited to the terminal. For this purpose, I would suggest you use a distro called BasicLinux, which I myself use on a 486 laptop with 8MB RAM.

Using BasicLinux with a Pentium 4 though would be rather silly though as such a computer is capable of significantly more. So I suggest that the two computers should really run different distros to take advantage of their hardware.
239  Damn Small Linux / Laptops / Re: RT2070 USB Wireless dongle instalation on: December 25, 2012, 10:57:06 AM
Check the dependencies for RT2870USB, it might need a later version of "make", "gcc", etc. than the one you are using.
240  Damn Small Linux / Laptops / Re: Wireless not working with DLINK dongle on USB on: December 09, 2012, 05:29:02 AM
Looking here:

Then at your lsusb listing, it appears that you have revision 2 of the DWA-140 device. That site shows that the driver for this is a version of the rt2870 driver designed for your card revision. To my knowledge, this driver is not included in DSL.

As a result, you will need to find a module (or group of modules) already compiled for the kernel used in DSL (2.4.31), or compile it yourself from the source code (if it is available). I described this process in greater detail here (ignore PCMCIA specific parts such as modifications to "/etc/pcmcia/config"):

However, having attained the driver modules, you will have to configure them with HotPlug. I have no idea what this would involve as I have not installed a driver for a USB device in DSL. I understand that mainstream Linux distributions no longer use HotPlug, so keep this in mind when looking online for information.

also, if you have another wireless card about, it may be more suitable than the one you are trying.
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