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31  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: Making the switch from Windows XP to Damn Small Linux on: April 12, 2014, 10:25:56 PM
It's likely that you'll find that some of your regular websites won't work properly with the Firefox web browser version included with DSL and, as I said earlier, it isn't able to be upgraded. However try running DSL from the CD and make up your own mind.

The USB wireless card may be a problem to get working in DSL, depending on the model. This is another thing you can try while running from the CD. Again you may have better luck with Knoppix if it doesn't work.

Assuming it is automatically detected, you can enable the card using the utility in the DSL menu in "Setup>Net Setup>iwconfig". Enter the name of your wireless network in the "sid" box and the password in the "wep" box. If it says something like "interface not found", open a terminal window and type "iwconfig", then try all the different codes listed at the left of the window, which don't have "no wireless extensions" printed next to them, in the "device" box of the "iwconfig setup" window.
32  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: Making the switch from Windows XP to Damn Small Linux on: April 11, 2014, 10:50:25 PM
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An HDD install is an install with the cd?

Both installs can be done from the CD. The CD contains the system that you want to copy to your computer. A Frugal install means the system is compressed on the HDD and can't be changed directly, while a plain HDD install just copies the files directly, so more space is used, but you can modify things easilly.

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What is a partition?

A partition is basically just an area of the HDD that the Operating System is allowed to read and write data to. If you have more than one partition, you can treat them like different drives all togeather and use them for different jobs. With DSL, we only really need one partition which covers the whole drive (which is what I described previously), for Knoppix you would need another one to act as extra memory in case you ran out.

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Is Knoppix small like DSL?  What makes it better then DSL?

DSL is designed to run on old computers from the late 1990s era, and also to be very small in size. Due to this, it is limited to an old set of core software which is now not compatible with a lot of newer programs (like many of the latest web browsers). Knoppix supports newer software, including some packages that may make the system easier for you to use. I don't know what you want to do with your computer, that's why I suggested you try DSL running from the CD and then decide whether it does what you want before installing it permanently. If it doesn't suit you, Knoppix is another option that might.

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If I choose Knoppix, I would follow the same instructions you posted here?

You could use a similar process to that I described earlier for installing Knoppix, but you would have to create two partitions (one for the Operating System files, another "swap" partition to act as extra memory) of different sizes on the drive.
33  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: Making the switch from Windows XP to Damn Small Linux on: April 10, 2014, 10:26:54 PM
The partitioning step should be the only thing you have to do manually, the rest should be done through a script and you can just select the default options.

I'm not sure if you realise that DSL can actually boot from the CD, so you run the OS from that to use during the installation. Once it has loaded the desktop, open a root terminal window (in the DSL menu this is under "Xshells>Root Access").

Now type the following and press "enter":
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cfdisk -z /dev/hda
This should bring up an interface showing one partition entry labeled with the type "Free Space".

Now use the left/right arrow keys to select the "new" button at the bottom of the window and press "enter". Then press "enter" at the next two prompts ("primary" and the partition size) as the default values will do.

Finally press "enter" on the "bootable" button (selected after the previous steps), then move to the "write" button and press "enter", then confirm that you want to make the changes (this step will destroy the Windows installation).

If you make a mistake, just go to "Quit" and start again, nothing is changed on the HDD untill you tell the program to "Write".

We didn't make a swap partition for the PC to use if it runs out of memory because your machine has more than enough to run DSL very well without using the HDD for extra.

Now it's hard to know whether you would want a Frugal or HDD install, but a HDD install would make it easier to install new software and keep settings changes, so I'll describe the process for that:

Open the DSL menu and go to "Apps>Tools>Install to Hard Drive". Type "hda1" at the first prompt and you should be able to press "enter" at the following options to use the default values.

When it's done, restart the computer and remove the DSL CD before it starts booting. You should boot to a menu of boot options (the default one is best for starters), then when you press "enter" DSL should start booting and you'll be set.


However before you do the above, I do recommend that you first have a play with DSL running from the CD to see that it works properly and does what you want. In particular the version of "Firefox" web browser it comes with, and which can't be upgraded, is old and incompatible with a few modern websites. A more modern and perhaps easier to use Distro that may work with your hardware is Knoppix (http://www.knopper.net), it still requires you to manually create partitions though (including a swap partition).
34  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: Making the switch from Windows XP to Damn Small Linux on: April 10, 2014, 07:32:11 AM
Yep, DSL can easilly be that main OS on your PC. You'll want to deside between a HDD install or a Frugal install though. Details are on the Wiki, but basically a HDD install keeps all the files changable on the HDD and allows you to make permanent changes, a Frugal install is smaller and keeps the system files compressed in a non-writable way so changes and additional programs must be set to automatically load during the startup procedure.

You'll need to repartition your HDD as well, as described in the Wiki.

As for the CD, DSL was designed to be able to fit on "business card" sized CDs which sit in a recess in the tray of most CD drives (they are often used for the driver CDs with computer products), they have a 50MB capacity. However DSL can easilly written to a full size CD, and this is an option on the CD sales page.
35  Damn Small Linux / User Feedback / Re: What does DSL get run on nowadays? on: April 09, 2014, 10:19:16 PM
Shameless bump - I'm bored with three votes.
36  Damn Small Linux / DSL Tips and Tricks / Re: Kernel Compile on: April 05, 2014, 09:27:40 PM
I don't believe there are any instructions for compiling the DSL kernel. Your best bet might be searching the old forum.
37  Damn Small Linux / User Feedback / Re: DSL revival? on: March 28, 2014, 10:23:20 PM
Yeah but I'm not sure why at least V. 3.6 was never compiled with the GTK2 extension (gtk2-0705.dsl) installed.

I did have a look at it a fair time ago, but now I can't even remember why I gave up on it, though I had a lot of trouble trying to find a place to download the Firefox 3.6 source code (surprisingly).
38  Damn Small Linux / User Feedback / What does DSL get run on nowadays? on: March 28, 2014, 02:44:03 AM
We don't get many polls (or, well.. posts) 'round these parts, so I thought I'd finally ask what I've long been wondering about DSL users. What sort of machines are they ruinning the OS on?

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Instructions
Select as many options as you have PCs running DSL. If your PC has one of the specific models of CPU in it, then the job's easy, otherwise (eg. an Intel Celeron) you'll have to have an idea of what main models were about at the time it was made. A good source of information on old CPUs that conveys the general and inspecific nature of it all is The Red Hill Hardware Guide (http://www.redhill.net.au/iu.html), but it's a bit of a read.

Feel free to post a reply with more details about your machine/s too.

As a quick attempt to generalise, here are the CPU models compared to the sorts of speeds you might expect (completely inaccurate as I haven't the time to look it all up, but gives you a rough idea from the top of my head):

486 - 33MHz-120MHz?
Pentium 1 - 90MHz-150MHz
Pentium 2 - 160MHz-~380MHz?
Pentium 3 - 450MHz-1400MHz
- Really covers two generations in terms of speed, with the Athlon Thunderbird - but I can't add any more options.
Pentium 4 - 1300MHz-~3000MHz+
-The plus indicates to select this option if you have anything later (it doesn't really matter here as this sort of CPU will never limit a normal DSL install).

All that in about a decade, by the way.
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The hard part has been working out how to class PC "generations". I've decided on the usual method of CPU models. RAM is important too, but it can be upgraded more easilly than a CPU, and (mainly due to this fact) is hard to class in combination with CPU generations.

I'll admit it's all pretty general, and probably hard for those who don't know much about computer hardware, but hopefully this will give a rough idea of what sort of machines DSL is going on to.


For my part, I'm posting from a Pentium 1 120MHz with 81MB RAM (I upgraded it from 32MB, but it worked pretty well beforehand as well). I also use it on an IBM Thinkpad R31 laptop with a Pentium 3 ~1GHz and 512MB RAM, and I've put it on a couple of similar era machines for other people.
39  Damn Small Linux / User Feedback / Re: DSL revival? on: March 28, 2014, 01:13:38 AM
Yeah, although I often manage to avoid bloated websites (or just force them to be lean by running them in Dillo), Ebay in particular has always caused my trouble in Bon Echo (only getting worse as time marches on). Today I also noticed that one website I occasionally visit has started forcing users over to https with a security protocol that Bon Echo doesn't support, so now I can't load it at all.

Then there's Java, recent versions do work on DSL (well last time I checked anyway), but don't support Bon Echo, so they're only good for external programs that run with Java.

But the problem is that after Firefox 2 (Bon Echo), Firefox started relying on dependancies that aren't compatible with the DSL system (I don't know the details, but I'd guess the kernel was too old for something). Though I'd be happy with Firefox 3.6, I expect the latest releases would be about as compatible as a new Windows 7 program is with Windows 95 (from a non-technical perspective).

As I said before though, this isn't really what DSL is designed for. With the Pentium 1 I'm using at the moment, Bon Echo takes about as long to start up as DSL does, it's slow as hell and if you tried to load Ebay, it would spend about half an hour trying before the system would crash. But with Dillo I can browse simpler sites without a hassle, and as quickly as a modern machine running Firefox and loading all the junk that Dillo doesn't bother with. That's the system that DSL was really designed for, but it seems a lot of people (me included, for my laptop) are putting it on when really they want something with the DSL philosophy, but better suited to a later generation of PCs.

I'll do that poll I mentioned earlier when I get the chance, just need to work out how to class PC "generations". EDIT - Done (http://damnsmalllinux.org/forums/index.php?topic=876.0).
40  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: basic help on: March 24, 2014, 09:10:17 PM
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I installed DSL on the mentionned machine. It works ;  but I can hardly read the screen:  darkblue characters ,on a black bord. Can this be altered?

You should have an image as your background (as in the screenshots that can be seen at www.damnsmalllinux.org), try right clicking on the desktop, a grey menu should appear, select "DFM for X11>Desktop Options" and try changing the colours with the settings in that window.

If the colours are out in program windows too, it might be a graphics driver problem, did they look alright when you booted the Live CD?

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I also mannaged to download the audacityprogram,  Think I have to unzip it (whit WinRAR?).

What type of installation did you do? HDD or Frugal?

If you got it from the MyDSL respository, it should have a ".tar.gz" or ".dsl" extension. The file named "audacity.uci" is the latest version available there, but you will need to make sure the PC loads it as part of the startup process (it doesn't stay there after shutdown). If you made a HDD install, the "tar.gz" package will stay on the computer after you install it (on a frugal install, it will need to be treated like a ".uci").

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To transfer it to the old computer via usb-stick will be the easiest way, I guess?

Yep, just double click on the file (no need to "unzip" it) in the file manager (emelfm) and a line of text will appear in the box at the bottom saying it was installed (this won't be permanent unless you used the "tar.gz" on a HDD install). There should now be an icon on the desktop for it, and in the "MyDSL" folder in the DSL menu.

The Wiki pages on MyDSL extensions and persistance (if you're using a frugal install) should give you more info about using MyDSL.
41  Damn Small Linux / Other Help Topics / Re: basic help on: March 23, 2014, 09:46:09 PM
You got this far, so I think you've figured out how the forum works. There's a link to a help page up the top of the page you're viewing now.

You might as well grab the latest release condidate from the ibiblio download site (http://distro.ibiblio.org/damnsmall/release_candidate/). Grab the file "dsl-4.11.rc2.iso", it'll easilly fit on a standard CD (DSL is only 50MB).

An old version of Audacity is available as a package in the Multimedia section of the MyDSL Respository (http://distro.ibiblio.org/damnsmall/mydsl/). A slichtly newer version is also available as a UCI (see the Wiki page on MyDSL extensions). If you need an even newer version, you'll have to compile it yourself (see the wiki page on making a tar.gz extension).

You might get better performance if you boot using the "dsl sata" command at the boot screen - and it you have a SATA HDD, you will need to use the "dsl sata" command there to allow access to it. See the cheatcodes page on the Wiki (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/) for more info.
42  Damn Small Linux / HD Install / Re: hd install issue on: March 15, 2014, 02:10:26 AM
Here are some picks of Linux help sites from my bookmarks, there are a number of others out there too:

Tuxfiles (http://web.archive.org/web/20130531230016/http://www.tuxfiles.org/) - Currently offline, link is to archive of the site.
The Linux Information Project (http://www.linfo.org/)
Newbie's Linux Manual (http://afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.rs/~ivica/nlm/index.html) - Old
Computer Hope (http://www.computerhope.com/unix.htm)

And some websites that are good for browsing different distributions:

Distrowatch (http://distrowatch.com/) - in case you didn't already know
The Live CD List (http://www.livecdlist.com/)
Wikipedia Lightweight Linux distribution page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_Linux_distribution) - not all that comprehensive.
43  Damn Small Linux / User Feedback / Re: New to DSL need guidance on: March 14, 2014, 01:28:52 AM
Here is the download directory for the core release (http://distro.ibiblio.org/damnsmall/dslcore/).

If you plan on compiling new software rather than just grabbing MyDSL packages, keep in mind that the old 2.4 kernel can limit compatibility with a lot of software. Make sure you check the requirements for both the software you want, and the dependencies that the new programs have.
44  Damn Small Linux / HD Install / Re: hd install issue on: March 12, 2014, 09:27:07 PM
OK, it looks like fdisk can read the partition table of your HDD alright, so things are workable. Actually, if you wiped the disk, there shouldn't be a partition table, did you manage to create some partitions?

Anyway, there are ways to make partitions in DSL without cfdisk, but if you want to install Knoppix it would probably be best to do the partitioning as you follow its installation program. Specifically, you need to create two partitions - one for swap space (where data goes when it can't fit in the memory), which should be the first partition on the disk and from memory needs to be a Gigabyte or greater in size, then another (eg. taking up the rest of the drive) for Knoppix itself. The installer will tell you how much swap space it wants and will open a graphical partitioning program (Gparted) to let you make the changes. You'd be best to delete all the partitions you've got on there already.

I've used the latest version of the Knoppix CD and it worked fine, so I'd say go with that (or, even better, the DVD).
45  Damn Small Linux / HD Install / Re: hd install issue on: March 11, 2014, 09:16:03 PM
As I said, Knoppix is probably what I'd put on that machine. For playing around, it allows you to install a lot of new software that can be difficult or impossible to install with DSL (it has a lot of features to play with too). It's up to you though, if you're happy with the programs in the MyDSL Respository, then you could go for that, but Knoppix would be my recommendation.

For the partitioning problem, please open a root terminal and post the result of the command "fdisk -l".
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