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 on: September 04, 2014, 11:18:54 PM 
Started by betatest3 - Last post by CNK
John hasn't said much about 4.11 since the last RC release. My guess is that he lost the time to work on it again, but I don't really know. He still logs into the forum every month or two.

I don't know how one person (well, perhaps with the exception of a very good full-time software developer) could manage to really keep DSL progressing to support newer hardware and software without loosing much of the support for the older generations.

Even ignoring size (which would be a bit silly for a main DSL release), a modern kernel comes without much of the early hardware support that has been stripped off over the years. It wouldn't be as simple as adding it back again (which could be done simply using Kernel Modules), the driver software would have to be adapted to work with the cahnges made to the kernel. You'd have to make sure the software line up stayed light enough to run on a Pentium 1 as well, which could mean making changes to some application software to keep it working in harmony in a modern system.

Perhaps it would be better to keep the old kernel and "backport" (if that's the right term) the hardware support. Of course this would basically make DSL a branch from the Linux Kernel and over time it would probably become its own entity like BSD. Like I say, this would be great if someone very good was willing to devote their life to it. Ideally it would also inspire its own suite of low resource usage software to fill in the gaps that exist at present.

That second one is what I'd really like to happen, but I just can't see it. In reality, I expect the best that will happen with DSL (and it's not really all that bad) is that the standard version will slowly be refined at its current level (new versions of Dillo, better installation scripts etc.), while a new DSL-N will take over most of the development and target more recent computers (eg. last 10 or so years) with improved hardware and software support while retaining the DSL philisophy to the extent possible. That would cater to both camps that tend to pop up here on the forum, and I expect it's what John is already aiming for (or, at least was when he started the new forum).

 on: September 02, 2014, 04:08:28 PM 
Started by John - Last post by fatmac
Hmm, when will DSL return, (I am wondering).......it has been 2 years......I fear it will be more, (if ever), unfortunately.  Cry

 on: September 02, 2014, 03:50:56 PM 
Started by John - Last post by fatmac
Will there be another release?
(This release is getting very old now.)

 on: September 02, 2014, 03:47:14 PM 
Started by betatest3 - Last post by fatmac
I'd like to see a modern version of DSL, with as much backwards compatibility as is possible using todays software & drivers, (i.e. wifi).
I don't know where our DSL leader (John) is with a newer version than 4.11.rc2 - is there any indication elsewhere that I may have missed?
Failing that, let us see how you would like DSL to progress?

 on: September 02, 2014, 03:39:05 PM 
Started by CNK - Last post by fatmac
I've just come back to look at how DSL is getting on, only to find it still stuck in 2012.  Roll Eyes
So, I've added my CPUs into the vote, all P4 & above nowadays.  Wink

 on: August 29, 2014, 07:13:24 PM 
Started by gcjhon - Last post by ngorock
You could try [aguaverts water treatment system] http://www.aguavert.com/waterpurificationsystem/overview, they are competing with the traditional water treatment systems and come in quite a bit cheaper. Cleaver design.

 on: August 29, 2014, 07:07:15 PM 
Started by gcjhon - Last post by jack14
That’s not your average home system Wink, what’s this for?

 on: August 29, 2014, 07:02:24 PM 
Started by gcjhon - Last post by gcjhon
What’s a good option for water purification of around 1m gal per day? Something basic that’s not too complicated to run.

 on: August 26, 2014, 11:23:04 PM 
Started by lifeisgreat - Last post by CNK
The version of the Linux Kernel used in DSL limits the software that can be run with it. New Adobe Flash doesn't work. I'd have to check the kernel version required by Gnash, but it probably won't work either.

There are plenty of posts about this in the old forum archive, Flash compatibility broke down with DSL a number of years ago. I believe at least relatively recent versions of Java work though, however the old Firefox version prevents them from running in the web browser.

 on: August 26, 2014, 10:56:29 PM 
Started by burak - Last post by CNK
It's tricky to get Apt working because DSL is based on such an old system. Even if you did get it to work, you'd be limited to an old version of the software you want to run. You need to use a package respository for Debian 3 "Woody", packages.debian.net is the official archive.

If the program isn't in the MyDSL respository, then the best option these days is to compile the software from source. Though you need to check that it, and its dependancies, will work with v. 2.4 of the Linux Kernel.

There's a guide to compiling software here (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/creating_a_compressed_extension_from_source.html). You don't need to make a tar.gz package for the MyDSL respository, but you are encouraged to so that you can help others who want the program.

That page doesn't tell you how to set up a compiling environment. An easy way to do this is to first install the following packages from the MyDSL repository: gcc1-with-libs, gnu-utils, compile-3.3.5.

For making changes in DSL permanent, see the DSL Wiki pages on "Persistance" and "HDD Install". You'll need a HDD Install if you're going to compile software without making MyDSL extensions as well.

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