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 91 
 on: January 31, 2014, 10:34:31 PM 
Started by jcdq - Last post by CNK
I've never used it, but looking at the documentation (http://elmo.sourceforge.net/documentation.html) it appears the config file is probably at "/home/dsl/.elmorc".

Open a root terminal and do "nano /home/dsl/.elmorc", then follow the "How to run elmo?" instructions in the docs. In case you don't know nano that well, press Ctrl-X when you're finished.

 92 
 on: January 31, 2014, 06:30:56 AM 
Started by jcdq - Last post by jcdq
How can I configure ELMO (electronic mail operator)?

 93 
 on: January 31, 2014, 03:07:57 AM 
Started by John - Last post by p3ngu1n0
I'd like to donate my time and Linux knowledge to the project. In about 2008, my family fell on hard times. I sold my laptop and we all sold many personal belongings to keep the lights on. Being as technology is my life, I had to find a ways to keep using the computer. I went down to the thrift store with a 20$ note and bought two old computers, neither in working order. After a night of swapping parts, I had pieced together an HP Vectra VL, with 384MB of ram and upgraded it's processor to a 533Mhz celeron. First, I tried installing XP SP2 on this machine. The speeds were deplorable and the system was near unusable when needed software had been installed. Fed up with the useless machine I had built, I took to the internet. Many people suggested installing Linux on the machine. The only distro with which I had experience at the time was ubuntu 7.10. After some googling, fiddling with Ubuntu, and a few burned CD's, I stumbled upon Damn Small Linux and the rest is history. I learned the system, the ins and outs of DSL and my thrist for linux could not be quenched. Since then, I've learned as much as I could about the operating system and would now like to give back and help fix, develop, and test as much as I can to bring DSL back to the top.

Cheers,
p3

 94 
 on: January 22, 2014, 11:54:58 PM 
Started by lucmars - Last post by CNK
The GRUB4DOS Wiki isn't working for me, so I can't look up the documentation. However as long as it supports the "kernel" command (which it should), it should work.

The commands that come after the kernel file path (in your case "/boot/isolinux/linux") are not for GRUB, but the kernel. GRUB simply passes them on to the kernel after it has been loaded. That's why they vary between distros.

The error you get is because the DSL kernel can't work out which directory to find all the other operating system files, the "root" command in the kernel line tells the kernel where these files are.

Also, I forgot that if you have a SATA HDD, you'll need to add the command "sata" to the kernel line as well. If you have an IDE (PATA) HDD, or a SATA HDD running in IDE compatibility mode, you should be aware that unlike many distros with more modern kernels (eg. Puppy), DSL names IDE HDDs in "hdx" format. eg. If an IDE HDD is recognised as "sda2" in Puppy, it would be "hda2" for DSL. However if it was SATA, USB or SCSI, it would be recognised in both distros as "sda2".

Best to keep DSL on the in the root directory of a partition. Here (http://damnsmalllinux.org/forums/index.php?topic=422.0) is a similar discussion from a while ago.

Yes the DSL startup is usually pretty verbose. I consider it more interesting.


Thanks for the break from endless wedding dresses :)

 95 
 on: January 21, 2014, 11:47:34 PM 
Started by lucmars - Last post by lucmars
Thanks for your answer CNK

I know a little bit about cheat-codes and among them I've noticed the "root=" or at least the "knoppix_dir", thought, I don"t know what Grub4dos can really do. May be it can 't go further than the bootstrap (aka the vm linux and the initrd).

I will try with the Dsl(n)'s stuff at the root of the partition (maybe it doesn"t like to be enclosed in a directory)

Personally I'am not tied to Grub4dos but the Puppys' frugal install are accomodated with (that don't work with Grub,, maybe with Grub2) so, if I find the right settings the Puppiers will be able to enjoy DSL(n) like an other frugal-install.

Beside that, Dsl-n may do not like my hardware : the boot is very verbose before it reaches the DSL's logo, is that usual ?

 96 
 on: January 19, 2014, 10:29:02 PM 
Started by lucmars - Last post by CNK
I haven't used GRUB4DOS, so I'm not aware of its syntax. Also, I've never intalled DSL-N, so the following advice relates mainly to DSL. However it appears to me that you need to put the "root=" command on the kernel line. Furthermore, your commands "pmedia" and "psubdir" are not in the list of startup "cheatcodes" (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/cheat_codes.html).

Currently the error indicates that DSL can't find the partition from which you want it to run. I sugest the following kernel line:
Code:
kernel /boot/isolinux/linux root=/dev/sda2 frugal
Note that this will run DSL in the root directory of sda2, not inside the dsln directory.

Also, I recommend you look at the cheatcodes page for more additions you may want to make to the kernel line.

 97 
 on: January 18, 2014, 04:13:16 PM 
Started by lucmars - Last post by lucmars
(third) Yep (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/frugal_install.html).
Thanks.

I've tried a frugal-install manually on my hard drive :

That boots until the scan for usb, firewire device and then "Sorry, I can't find Knoppix filesystem..." (seems to search it on an external storage).
At least, I got a tiny shell.

Note that this is the frugal-install of  DSL-N RC,  I should rather try with the current DSL, no ?

Moreover I use Grub4dos instead of Grub or Lilo,, but it does its job apparently.

Just for the information, here below a Grub4dos setting for a frugal-install like Puppy with Dsl-n

Code:
title dsln frugal in sda2 dir dsln
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies /dsln/minirt.gz
  kernel /dsln/linux pmedia=atahd psubdir=dsln
  initrd /dsln/minirt.gz

 98 
 on: January 17, 2014, 01:10:53 AM 
Started by Tim Diskataneous - Last post by CNK
No, I've never tried.

But good luck, whatever you go for.

 99 
 on: January 17, 2014, 01:04:39 AM 
Started by lucmars - Last post by CNK
(first) Well you know now. Experience is sometimes assumed in such documents.

(second) That's pretty subjective. GRUB is generally more flexible, and there's much more information about it in the DSL Wiki than for Lilo.

(third) Yep (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/frugal_install.html).

 100 
 on: January 17, 2014, 12:54:04 AM 
Started by betatest3 - Last post by CNK
Well assuming you base it on Knoppix like the current DSL, it would just be a matter of slowly stripping parts out, tweaking others, and compiling updated versions of software.

Never having tried to create or significantly modify a distro, I couldn't comment very well on the tecnical complexity of the task, but it would be tedious, and little from the current DSL could really be used directly.

Not that DSL with a v3 kernel would be a valid new version of DSL, as system requirements and total size would contradict the goals of DSL. Instead this would effectively be a new DSL-N.


As for DSL itself, I believe it could still go further. While a lot of the software is no longer updated or has suffered bloat, there are still improvements that could be made in the scripts and the user interface. With enough support, it would be great to have basic software applications developed for DSL, effectively turning it into a base for low resource software development. The RaspberryPi, even running DSL through Qemu (which I'd love to try if I had one), could be a great modern application of DSL. But all this would need willing developers, I don't have the time or experiance, John seems on and off at best, and the other past contributers have gone.

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