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Topic: HDBOOT "live" from HD no floppy no cdrom no lilo, (just boot 50 meg iso, not "installed")

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melontree

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Posted: Feb. 27 2005,13:51

as long there is "live" booting from CDROM or USB
i miss THE SAME live booting from hdd - so how to?

i am not talking about http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/talk/node/64
i am not talking about dual boot
i am not talking about booting with floppy aid
not http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin....al+boot
i am not talking about "install" with lilo

just a barebone without cdrom, without floppy
NO FLOPPY, imagine a 50 meg small HD-Drive

how to pack the 50 meg iso
or the busted 50 meg iso
to the HD (maybe pack the hd with an external computer)
and what kind of boot loader where to get?

boot from hdd toram as "live" version every time a fresh system
i want a fresh live system like from cdrom every time i boot from HD
with f2 option like dsl toram ...
every time i boot from HD - no floppy, no cdrom, no 200 meg partition, no usb

so how to?

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i want a F2 boot option: transfer compressed dsl to hd (leave it compressed) and install a boot record on these hd to boot every time the compressed version from hd

green

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Posted: Feb. 27 2005,20:43

I've seen your other posts.

My advice: Go sit down somehwere before you burst a blood vessel and have a stroke.

When you start using all caps and bold letters, it's like you are yelling at everyone. Stop it.

The answers you seek are right in front of you. Maybe you are not understanding them, but they are there.

READ

roberts

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Posted: Feb. 27 2005,23:31

The F2 that you speak of comes from syslinux or isolinux. Syslinux is for vfat systems in particular boot flopply images.
Isolinux is made for booting from cdroms. Both of these are simple boot loaders and not boot managers.
The entire "device" is dedicated to a particular image, not mixed like you would find on a hard drive.
That is why for hard drives you would want a boot manager, like lilo or grub. There you can specify mixed environments from which to boot.

I can't imagine why someone would want to have to type a bunch of boot time options in each time they boot, especially from a hard drive.
Most people after learning how they like their system will not want to type extra boot options.

Using frugal, you can specify all your boot time options. such as toram
So if the goal is to boot from hard drive but use the toram option you can currently do it using frugal.

Many others have started to use Grub and can easily edit a file to achive the same effect.

cbagger01

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Posted: Feb. 28 2005,05:02

Why not just "syslinux" your hard drive itself?

If you don't want to use a conventional hard drive, you can always just format your RAW hard drive device as vfat without any partitions and then syslinux it.

Then copy your DSL files over to /dev/hda or whatever it is called.

You might also accomplish this by doing a raw dd dump of the DSL SYSLINUX version livecd directly over to your hard drive.

In other words boot toram, unmount your cdrom and type something like:

dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hda bs=4096

and see what happens.

In the worst case, you will need to reformat your hard drive and start over while losing all of your data.

melontree

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Posted: Feb. 28 2005,12:49

cbagger01 thanks.

i already use an old 200 meg hd and lost on most of my attempts here my data, so it doesnt matter.

its too bad that nobody can write a different lilo script different to the "install to hd". the man who wrtote this, rewrite this in seconds. i try for hours. it doenst help to much if there is a frugal option or a link to grub.dsl and you still have hours for trying just a simple thing like booting from hd.

ill report what happened after trying both your suggestions

meantime report:
syslinux
SYSLINUX
SYS
sys
all command not found
after and before
sudo su

as hda and hdc as samples are confusing,
i tried various if/of switched on your suggested line
until something was rumbling, happened,
at the moment no access to hd so i have to reboot
and post result later

dd of=/dev/hdc1 if=/dev/cdrom bs=4096

mount /dev/hdc1
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1,
or too many mounted file systems

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i want a F2 boot option: transfer compressed dsl to hd (leave it compressed) and install a boot record on these hd to boot every time the compressed version from hd

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