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Topic: Kudo to the folks here too, No kidding, I mean it

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enthusi

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Posted: Jan. 18 2004,22:17

what a nice topic

nice people also :o)
I think this is almost unique and I have s little theory for it
(beside the fact that John obviously planted a wonderful seed)
The only forums/usergroups I found to be very polite and helpful (almost ridiculously helpful sometimes) are in C64-Forums. I love C64 by the way :o) But the setting is similar: care about something worthy caring about, learning by doing, tweak the best out of someting others do not recognize as what it is. Be it an "all-so-old" Commodore 64 or an 100 Mhz-Machine...
People here are people who care about stuff :o) No "I need the best I need the latest, fastest, biggest"-behaviour...
I think thats important...
And when it comes to linux as a whole thing (DSL is not toooo big to know many topics at least by name) everybody soon has some little knowledge he can share with others while again others can offer their help. I find this amazing... I know some stuff about C but little about init-processes and I'm learning of both here :o)

beeig nice and polite IS the smarter way :o)

lets have fun for quite some more time....

enthusi
(beeing in a good, warm mood)

oh, and posting a link I find interessting
fascinating
Its a little pic with a german text-line but its fun for "every"one...

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DStrick64

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Posted: Jan. 19 2004,02:14

Another good point. Most of the other distro forums are all about gamers or whatever trying to get nvidia drivers to work. Same thing, over and over and over. Most DSL'ers are running on old hardware that predates nvidia, I guess.:D

Stu Pidasso Offline

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Posted: Jan. 21 2004,17:01

if anyone's looking for a good newbie forum, I would suggest the forums at LinuxQuestions.org .

I've spend my time there in the forum for the Slackware distro, mosty reading and learning from other's problems and all of the more experienced users are very nice. From time to time the do suggest RTFM and Google, but they do it in a way which isn't belittlement. I can't for certain if the other forums are as friendly, but the tagline for the site is "Where Linux Newbies Come for Help."
Give it a look if you need some help, but I would definitely suggest doing a search for your problem in the forum itself, before starting a new post. It has a nice forum search option at the lower right corner of each page.

mage492

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Posted: Jan. 23 2004,15:31

In response to what enthusi mentioned, about needing the latest and "greatest", this is the first forum I've been to where I've heard people boasting about their OLD computers running Linux! It's refreshing, actually... (By the way, the C64 was awesome!)

<tangent, but sort of connected>

I've got this Mac Classic, that I still use. People keep telling me to throw it out, but it was my first computer (not counting family computers). I have more memories (and more vivid ones) of that computer than I do of many of my old human friends! I'm sure many of us remember our first personal computers. All of the computers I own (except the one this is being typed on) were almost litterally saved from the dumpster!

People, today, just don't seem to have this kind of attachment. It's shallow, in a very sad way. They have this computer that obeys their every command for years, without complaint, and they throw them away as soon as they can't play the latest games. How ungrateful can someone be?

Truth be told, That was what attracted me to Linux, at first. People were throwing away old non-Apple computers, and I couldn't accept them, because I refused to use a Windows computer. With Linux, now I can use them! And so, my 4 ancient computers (and one relatively new one) live on, in happiness.

</tangent>

Well, that went on a bit longer than I'd intended! Anyway, as for the reason I put the "greatest" in quotes... Have you noticed that hardware has slowly become less and less reliable? It used to be that RAID was unheard of. Who needed it? Drives almost never failed. Now, I've lost count of the number of people I've talked to who have had catastrophic failures of nearly every component imaginable! Still, my old 486 keeps chugging along...

Latest and greatest, huh? I might not have nvidia drivers, but I'm not struggling to get bleeding-edge hardware to work. Who's "low end", now?

(That was fun. I need more caffeine...)

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enthusi

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Posted: Jan. 23 2004,16:33

True spoken!
I agre on almost every point :o)
Except: "(By the way, the C64 was awesome!)"
The C64 IS awesome!

Even though I dont my emails with it, or run a lightshow (well I do use it as musicbox) many people still use it

Oh, and about realiability: I have 4 Commodore64-machines... From 83,84,86,87 - they all never ever failed up to the day for more than 20 years !! (even though I didnt use them since '83)
Well, one of them did quite often but that was because of me doing hardware stuff with it and all the burned up (they twice actually burned) parts could be exchanged manually :o)
But thats also right for other 486-hardware... And even though I like programming pentium or amd-specific (though I'm not all TO good at it) be honest: There is no software written for CPUs since 486!
Thats incredible. Most programs dont even use pentium I-extentions (AMD got all those included already for years so there is no incompability problem as such)...
Well why should they? : ) Its all pretty much fast enough - lets make BETTER use of what we have instead of using things worse than before so that we NEED better...
I planned that sentence to be more worthy of quoting but who cares...
So keep on going! We are throughing stuff away we have not yet explored... (something dont have to be explored any further though... I have Wxx95 in mind)

I just returned from a job I have next to my studies.... teaching children physics and how much fun it can be : )
Those poor little guys dont even know what a tape is anymore....
At home, I still store my C64-files on them :o)
(on the other hand - they'll probably get laid at an age of 15 - I wasn't :-)
Before I get too political,
bye now,
Enthusi

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silence tells me secretly...
...everything
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DSL on
cf-frugal-install on 700Mhz P3, 320 MB ram
cf-frugal & usb for via epia 5000, 512 MB ram

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