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lucky13

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Posted: Aug. 13 2007,17:45

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DSL-N is no alternative, as it is in a very early not anymore supported stage.

I think it's still a viable option if you want a small Linux distro because it's very usable.

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Posted: Aug. 13 2007,17:56

Quote (lucky13 @ Aug. 13 2007,13:45)

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DSL-N is no alternative, as it is in a very early not anymore supported stage.

I think it's still a viable option if you want a small Linux distro because it's very usable.

Might be, but my mouse doesn't move at all in the current DSL-N, although there is no problem with Knoppix, Ubuntu, ..

And also consider that it is named " version 0.1 RC 4 ".

DSL 3.4 ( or even DSL 4 alpha ) with kernel 2.6.x would be fine.
DSL 3.4 is a final version and DSL 4 will be supported regulary.

We are currently living in year 2007 and USB pens with a size of 128 MB are not really expensive anymore

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Posted: Aug. 13 2007,18:04

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We are currently living in year 2007 and USB pens with a size of 128 MB are not really expensive anymore

My personal solution: I use DSL for almost everything because it's fast, efficient, and there's no shortage of software. Loading devices is another matter, so I have to have an XP available just for that (e.g., I just bought a Sony reader). It's a simple matter to find network cards, etc., that are supported.

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Posted: Aug. 13 2007,18:36

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Might be, but my mouse doesn't move at all in the current DSL-N,

Why not? Knoppix may be able to autoconfigure that particular mouse, but I'm willing to bet it will also work with DSL(-N) even if you have to configure it yourself. And your settings will carry over if you install it.

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And also consider that it is named " version 0.1 RC 4 ".

DSL's release candidates are more stable than some distros' official releases. I'm running one "older" release candidate (from 3.2) and have an uptime of about three weeks now.

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We are currently living in year 2007 and USB pens with a size of 128 MB are not really expensive anymore

I know, and I just saw 1GB sticks at Office Depot this morning for $14.99. The point about the size isn't the cost of USB sticks; it's about making something useful in a small amount of space so it can be run in various ways even on low-resource computers.

Example: I can run DSL from RAM on machines with 128MB RAM. I won't be able to do that if it bloats up to 100+ MB. And while some of you are willing to buy the latest, greatest hardware, some of us are determined to continue squeezing every bit of use out of perfectly functional hardware.

It's also about choices. You already have every distro vying to entice you and your new hardware with every fad like spinning and twisting 3d window management and super-slick graphics. It's neat. What's not so neat is how those other distros have totally abandoned users with older hardware -- which means you either need to upgrade or buy a new computer to use them. DSL is one of the only continually-developed resources (other than the BSDs) that remains an option for those of us using older hardware. DSL would become less of an option -- or our choices of how we can use it will be reduced -- if it grows beyond what our hardware can handle. Its size affects how its used: toram as well as how it fits on USB sticks.

Whatever DSL has to do to roll with the times is acceptable to me so long as it doesn't do it at the expense of what DSL has always been about. That includes supporting older hardware, and I count functional 64MB USB sticks right in there with my older computers.

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Posted: Aug. 13 2007,19:19

I fully agree.

Nevertheless, as I'm also a Windows user, I had to build a new computer due to performance problems with my IBM Thinkpad 390E.
The ASUS Pundit is a real cheap system consisting of housing, power supply and motherboard.
As I wanted to be up-to-date, I decided for a SATA-DVD-Rom which was nearly the same price as an ordinary IDE-DVD-Rom.
I didn't want to invest in an additional network card, therefore I'm using the onboard network from the motherboard.

Maybe I will try to get the mouse running in DSL-N.
But what worries me is not only the old release candidate status but also the version 0.1.
I have tried the first alpha version of DSL 4 from an USB pen.
Beside the fact that the onboard network card has not been recognized, the mouse was working without any problem.

I didn't fully understand it yet, what it would mean, if there would be two 3.4 versions, one with kernel 2.4.x and one with kernel 2.6.x. How much time would be required to build? Could this time be estimated? Is it only a compiling with another kernel file or what special operations would have to be done? Is it a real easy task? Standard work?

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