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jlowell

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Posted: July 28 2004,16:49

Despite a very long recent discussion here about a booting/loading problem I was having with the then current version of DSL, downloading, burning and trying the new, 0.7.3 iso today I still get "boot failed" messages. Is this new CD based upon KNOPPIX 3.4 and utilize isolinux as I'd been led to believe it would be? I don't believe anything along those lines is mentioned in the changelog. I really must say, if my problem can't be taken seriously here, I'll just use Feather for my purposes and forget about DSL altogether.

jlowell

cbagger01

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Posted: July 28 2004,17:03

I don't recall anyone here saying that minor DSL version number change 0.7.3 was going to be based on knoppix 3.4

In fact, using common sense as my guide, I don't expect to see a DSL version that is based on knoppix 3.4 until version 0.8.0 or some other big jump in the version number happens.

Contrary to your insinuation, DSL is not in competition with Feather or any other compact Linux livecd. If another solution works better for you, my advice would be for you to use that solution.

On more than one occasion I have suggested that someone "use the right tool for the job" when it comes to software in addition to hammers / screwdrivers and if Feather is the right tool for the job I wouldn't hesitate to use it.

Otherwise, I would wait patiently for the next major version change of DSL, like every other person. I don't expect the authors to release it until they are satisfied that it is stable.

laughing_gas Offline

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Posted: July 28 2004,17:36

jlowell, I didn't know DSL was being made specifically for you? How special you must feel. And I see that Rob from Feather is also specifically making his distribution for your personal needs. Gee that's great! I wish I were you.

clivesay

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Posted: July 28 2004,18:01

"I really must say, if my problem can't be taken seriously here, I'll just use Feather for my purposes and forget about DSL altogether."

BIG MISTAKE!!

I'm with cbagger.

Robert stated that they are playing with a beta based on 3.4 but it is not for general consumption. You can tell by his posts that Robert does not fly by the seat of his pants. He puts things through their paces before he releases. I respect that even though it can be hard to wait!

I definitely wouldn't want anyone to look at Feather and DSL as competitors. I like both distros and their developers. I would say in the beginning they were very similar but over the last several months they have had different focuses. DSL has chosen to stay with 3.3 and focus on things like myDSL, and LiveCD usage while Rob decided to retool to Knoppix 3.4. Alot of the people in the Feather forum seem to like USB and HD installs. If you follow the Feather forum you can see that there have been some real challenges that go along with 3.4.

As a Linux learner, I haunt both forums on a daily basis. I would say that my final OS will be a hybrid of both distros. I challenge anyone to point to a better place to learn linux than these two distros. I haven't found it. There are great people in both places.

Please don't take any of this as personal. I am just making general comments.

In my opinion, if you don't follow both distros and push yourself to understand how each works and how you can combine features to suite your needs, you are really limiting yourself and the possibilities.

Take care

Chris

ke4nt1

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Posted: July 28 2004,18:12

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So maybe we have a clue as to what's going on, that the problem is related to DSL's use of the KNOPPIX 3.3 CD which includes syslinux, whereas Feather is a remaster of KNOPPIX 3.4 which employs isolinux? Interesting. If true, God knows if DSL development is going to be interested in moving to KNOPPIX 3.4 together with isolinux simply to accomodate one user. We don't know with certainty that 3.3 and syslinux is the problem, but how else to explain that I can boot Feather Linux and KNOPPIX and not DSL?

jlowell

The 0.8 version of DSL is still in beta testing.
Progress is moving forward steadily, but wisely.
( It will be worth the wait ! )

DSL is not in any rush to get out a product based on knoppix 3.4 until it is stable and clean.

This is an update to the 0.7.X series, that addresses many issues , as you've seen in the changelog.
This will be the solid base that the upgrade to 0.8 will be based upon.

It's unfortunate that your issue was not resolved in this release.

The focus on this release was to correct issues with the audio cd's playing under user dsl, ( yeah! )
the inconsistant problem with installing to hda1 ( my grub loader is happy again !! ),
continuing to make progress with the lua package, and other issues and new features listed.
The autoloading feature is very welcome indeed !

I'm very pleased with this release, and I expect much praise will be sent to John and roberts for their hard work.

73
ke4nt

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