ke4nt1
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Posted: Nov. 17 2004,01:57 |
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Truly, knowing that I was in-part responsible for running someone off the message forums, would not help me to attain the level of nirvana that I seek ..
But if you want some... I CAN deliver.... Flame On, Johnny..!
My earlier post was not flaming YOU personally, only the message behind the one (1) sentence ..
( I don't think I mentioned your name anywhere .. and any references to the word "you" were directed to a collective mentality.. )
Let's begin...
| Quote | | Do you have a problem with me supporting the bands I like? |
I have no idea what your level of support of any musicianship is.
This discussion is about "mp3's" and "downloading" , but I feel that your idea of support is skewed if you believe that purchasing commercial product thru common distribution channels is "supporting" anything but your own desire to own material goods, and the wallets of large conglomerates like Sony Music and Time Warner.. You affirm this later in your post by stating that known musicians can't "make a living" ...
Do you feel that it is a lack of "sales" that makes then fail ? RIAA reports that "sales" of music product is actually "up" from years past, but profits aren't ..... awwww ..
No more "Bahamas" for you mr. agent, while good musicianship starves ..
| Quote | | Neither Iced Earth, Kreator, Ram-Zet or any other band I know does accept money just for money from the fans. |
Really..? Did they just send it back to you return postage paid? Or, perhaps they sent you an autographed picture or momento, in exchange for your support, or even a hand-written letter?
These are just examples of stories I hear from up-and-coming musicians and artists that I work with every day, who truly WANT to be loyal to their fanbase..
Do they have a website? Do they sell memorabilia? Do they have a fan club that you can subscribe to , and get the latest news about THEIR supporters?
| Quote | | I am getting yelled at for not downloading music. Get real man. Who get the money does not matter. Someone took the effort to get the damn cd's onto the store |
Ahh.. stick a fork in it now, cause its a done deal ..
We're not "yelling at YOU" , only the message behind your sentence. Who gets the money DOES matter to me ,
It matters to your prized starving lead singer , and, unfortunately and unfairly as it is, it matters to the manufacturers of media - worldwide..
They'd sell you old turds in a plastic box if it would get you to try it ..
| Quote | | As for radio. You do know that the artist get paid so that the radio stations can broadcast their songs? |
..cough.. ..cough.. (ke4nt mind explodes on that statement)
I have yet to hear of an instance where Clear-Channel or any other radio conglomerate wrote a "CHECK" to any talent, other than radio jocks..
There ARE plenty of people paying the radio station BIG BUCKS to advertise their warez alongside all of that FREE MUSIC thru our public-owned FREE AIR WAVES.
" Hi!, KLOL, I'm here to pick up my checks !" good grief, charlie brown ..
| Quote | | Besides. Before the band start distrubuting music all by themselves, no-one buying the cd's does actually matter. The mp3's you download does breed from a cd, you know? |
I buy CD's , you buy CD's , my brother - he buy's CD's too..
This isn't about "buying" CD's - this is about the fact that the public has this notion that buying cd's "supports" artists, and that the media bias has made it "politically incorrect" to do anything with it once you've bought it..
We could get into long discussions about my rights to "loan" it to my friends, rip it into my MP3 player, etc. etc.. What if I bought it from a neighbor? DO I still have the right to download it, if I "have" a copy? What if my copy turned to pieces, Did I 'lose" that right ? What if I owned it on vinyl? Can I download it now?
Can I record it off the radio ?
Can I Tivo it? Can I record it and watch it later with my friends, or do they need to OWN a copy first..
This is all BS - Deep Doodoo ..
And the big thing is, it's --< i m a g i n a r y >-- ..
These issues are "made up" stories..
Fueled by the big pockets of large industry, and lawyers who need to feed off of that bankroll in any "creative" or " devious" methods they can get lobby support for...
Have no doubt that TRUE piracy takes place every day around the globe, in the billions of units, especially in east asia ..
And I support prosecution of that type of "crime".
But the crap about going after "Little Johnny B." who offered to share his collection of "favorites" with his classmates or friends, is a BIG LOAD of propaganda. It's a scapegoat tactic..
A better scenario is that those "friends" all liked the "samples" they heard, and like all GOOD PROMOTION , went looking for more, which helps to ...
Generate true artist revenues by attending shows and concerts,
Sponsorship of artist-driven promotional items..
( Hi, I'm Alice Cooper, and I ..l o v e .. Pampers Diapers.. )
And yes, buying CD's
( does their website sell them, rather than WalMart? )
Then they get ALL the cash, not some chump change..
I am protesting only the mindset placed in the public eye by an organization that is now struggling to survive after being a "fat cat" monopoly thru the 60's, 70's, and 80's.
The "SCO" fiasco is very similar to the RIAA tactics of today.
Set, sorry your leaving.... Your missing out on a great group of folks here.
Perhaps try logging in as another userid, poke around anonymously, and see the level of help, assistance, and "support" that takes place here.....voluntarily..
It's a nice place to learn and share.
( sshhh.. don't kiss-n-tell, but we even share ....SOFTWARE !?!? !WHAT!! !! !! ....sshh ... ) 
Actually, I'm v e r y close to having a working xf86 server,
and compiled nvidia driver under DSL for Quake 3..
( I can see the eyes glazing now.. STOP IT! its in way early stages.. )
I'm guessing that would be a good starting platform
for an attempt at Doom 3 ...
73
ke4nt
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