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Posted: Aug. 03 2004,17:27 QUOTE

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Here are what I see different, or that require further explanation,
in the order you have posted them in your texts..

bittorrent (has an X window setup when first run)

Yeah, I got it, it works.

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dsl-dpkg (If apt-get works, if /etc/apt exists, your good-2-go)
 it does exist, but I shouldn't test it here at work.  I was too tired to test at home last night.
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gcompris (some of the games do fine, like matching, others die)
 The one I tried was the telling time game and it froze after 3 wrong answers. I wonder if a high score or score file is missing.  It may need some file to write results to like other games.
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oouser (the user icons and files for the OOo.ci cloop version) ( If you saw icons and menu options, it's fine )
Yeah, I have both, but they don't work untill you add the OO.o myDSL file.  Another thing about OO.o, if you launch Impress from the icon, you get the new presentation wizard.  If you launch from the menu, you get a blank presentation that actually looks like the window for Writer.  I don't know if this is correct or not.
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...Do you have the wmix app in the lower right corner of your desktop, right below the mount utility ? ..
... Detecting your s-card at bootup isn't the same thing as actually having it working..Does XMMS work for you on this box ? ...
Nope, no mixer applet.  I've heard of problems getting this onboard i810 sound to work before.  I'll test the sound apps on my laptop.  I did try the sound setup from the menu and it detects the sound, but it still doesn't work.  Xmms will launch, but again, no sound.  I had this trouble on an old laptop that had ISA-based OPL3Sax sound.  It was a PITA and I never got sound on it except under windows.
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Barrage ( requires sound )
Freebirth ( again, requires sound , it's a sound synthesizer )
sox ( again, sound effects app for cli - requires sound)

Like I said, I'll check on the laptop and a desktop at home with a real sound card.
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Nessusd ( Hmmm..  I'll look again, good feedback so far )

run it from the command line and you will see the error.  I think I had to switch to the /usr/bin directory before it would run too.  I don't know if that matters or if you want to add it to the path.
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Quake2 ( requires at least the "pak0.pak" game file from either
the shareware or retail version to play , place it in your baseq2
directory - the game files are not GPL'ed )

I have to find my disks, somewhere in my stuff after my move.  I'll see if I can download the shareware version today as I was going to rebuild the disk again, since you released some new .dsl files on 7/31.  At least I can sort by date  on the site which is extremely useful to my way of building.  I may grab a few more .dsl files too, since I have more room.
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Ruby ( Programming app - who knows )
vba ( like quake2, it requires non-GPL'ed "ROMS" to play )

I found a disk w/ some roms on it and it played OK.  I have no idea what controls to use, but it did load the rom.  They may want to keep up w/ or track new versions of the emulator as they are always improving.
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php ( Yes, an addition to the web server )
amsn ( It's still a first version contrib, and only recently rebuilt )
t-bird ( known issues )
x-chat ( Missing libs error, I think.. )

I see there is a new version of x-chat up, I'll grab it.
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xscreensaver ( known issues - mine always says the same error about XRandr libs as yours did.. )

I did get one error about a GTK lib problem.  I didn't write it down though.
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ff.tar.gz ( user files and icons for the firefox.ci cloop version )  ( If you saw icons and a menu listing, it's fine  )

I still don't know if I'm using the .ci files correctly.  I doubt it.  On the next rebuild I do, I'll leave the .ci files out as they are no use to me, unless that is the only way an app is packaged.
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xvc.tar.gz ( very specific instructions for its use in xvc.info )

The way I read the .info, I will have to unzip and remove and then place on my rebuild ISO.  I will put the source files in another sub directory or something to stay legal.  I may distribute the ISO at my LUG meeting on Wed.
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ion2 ( first version - still requiring a rebuild - may not be cross-compatible with "dsl" vs "damnsmall" username )
 Tried again and no worky.  I doubt I'll use it ever anyway, I really like fluxbox.  If you get a new version, I'll check it though.  It doesn't take long to reboot.  :p

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All in all , I say you did a very FINE job separating the
"wheat" from the "chaff" ....

Thanks.  Just glad to help.  I helped out on the Morphix board for  about six months.
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Now, after I check all these apps for proper file ownerships, permissions, file structures, proper tar structure, etc,
then I try to determine what happens when these apps are run in "Combos"
(especially the red level apps, because they OVERWRITE things)

I stay away from the ones with known issues, but give it a go
at installing 3 or 4 of these apps in the same desktop.
Preferably only 1 red level app in the group.

I'm looking for libs that some programs want to update,
or don't realize that they are already in the DSL base distro.
Packages built from .debs or "apt-get" want to stay in
"good debian form" for package management reasons.

But the DSL distro breaks away from true "Debian" form, by
adding apps that aren't "deb'd" or "Apt-got" thru traditional
means..  Therefore a new .dsl file may want to install a lib,
thinking it SHOULDN'T already exist, but it does.

And it does for a reason, and overwriting it may break the
original app that placed the first version of the lib in DSL.

And if that's crazy, you should see how new apps work when I
"downgrade" their libs so that they DON'T overwrite"...
( actually, most apps do just fine like this..keyword - MOST )

Oh yeah, I figured out why my laptop would not run mplayer.
Trying it in a shell gave me the error message
......~ for cpu with mmx / sse extensions .....
Not on my poor little compaq laptop.. never had , never will

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ke4nt

Sorry about your laptop.  Maybe it's time for an upgrade?  Let me know if there is any specific combo of add-ons you want me to test or anything else.  email me: ripcrd.at.gmail.dot.com


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Posted: Aug. 03 2004,18:08 QUOTE

Many thanks for the great feedback...

To sum up a few of your last points...
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oouser (the user icons and files for the OOo.ci cloop version) ( If you saw icons and menu options, it's fine )
Yeah, I have both, but they don't work untill you add the OO.o myDSL file.  Another thing about OO.o, if you launch Impress from the icon, you get the new presentation wizard.  If you launch from the menu, you get a blank presentation that actually looks like the window for Writer.  I don't know if this is correct or not.

It's designed to be added to your desktop for the OOo.ci after you install it.
As of 0.7.3 the compressed .iso files can be mounted/unmounted with the
mydsl button in emelfm, rather than having to be in your root "/" at boottime,
which was the case in 0.7.2 and prior.  They REALLY save bigtime ramspace!


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Ruby ( Programming app - who knows )
vba ( like quake2, it requires non-GPL'ed "ROMS" to play )

I found a disk w/ some roms on it and it played OK.  I have no idea what controls to use, but it did load the rom.  They may want to keep up w/ or track new versions of the emulator as they are always improving.

I think the 5 key "loads coins" and the 1 key "Starts Game" etc...
cursor and space/enter for the rest..


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ff.tar.gz ( user files and icons for the firefox.ci cloop version )  ( If you saw icons and a menu listing, it's fine  )

I still don't know if I'm using the .ci files correctly.  I doubt it.  On the next rebuild I do, I'll leave the .ci files out as they are no use to me, unless that is the only way an app is packaged.


Again, like the OOo.ci, the ff.tar.gz is to be installed AFTER you load the
firefox.ci compressed iso for the firefox app.. Another BIG ram saver..

And I get to do this all over again with the upcoming DSL 0.8
So far,  in beta testing , there are no issues...   :)

73
ke4nt
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Posted: Aug. 03 2004,19:17 QUOTE

A possible reason why some things are reacting diferent from 0.7.2 to 0.7.3 is the change of username. I check vnc4x.dsl, and made it runing for both versions. BTW  ke4nt1, did you received the vnc4x.dsl package ? I didn't saw it in the testing area, or in the repository.( or am i to fast ... ;-) )

I 'm just upgrading my 3 pc's to 0.7.3, which are all hdd installed.

I will test also some packages, and i let you know how they react.

regards
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Posted: Aug. 03 2004,19:32 QUOTE

The username/symlink was changed in both 0.7.2 and 0.7.3...

dukkieduk, Yes, recieved and thanks..

I'm getting caught up.  , but certainly behind in my work...Busy weekend..

I also recieved your readme to add in the .dsl ..

Did I get your md5sum and .info file on this extension..?
Frequently I delay posting up new extensions untill I get these files with it...
I can't chase down authors/sources for the 80-90
extensions we have now..sri ..  

Sometimes a note like yours is all I need to  
" add this to my list of todo's..."

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ke4nt
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Posted: Aug. 04 2004,06:52 QUOTE

I now it's going toooooo fast for me also, I think that there should only 1 major release every 2 months or so. otherwise...will you know the feeling...

Btw , i forgot indeed the 2 files, i will send them 2 you asap.
thanks for reminding me.

I'm porting also a backup solution for dsl, so it can backup 2 servers over the network on a tapedevice...

i let you know how it runs out because my 2 scsi cards are not recognized by dsl...... ( exotiq cards... tekram & adaptec slimscsi 1460B).

Regards
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