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ke4nt1

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Posted: July 31 2004,21:54

No biggie...
All of mine have had to be rebuilt several times now..

I thought cbagger was commenting that his script would not
work for 2 stage / mulitplexed .deb builds..

Several users have commented on wanting this app for their DSL.

Are you going to continue to work with this copy of t-bird.dsl?
If so, I will put this one aside in my storage area..

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ke4nt

mpie

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Posted: Aug. 01 2004,15:50

to be honest i think i am more likely to get the 0.7.2 source from mozilla.org and build from gcc to make an install then zip that instead, except unsure how too zip it to a dsl it's a sharp learning curve

ke4nt1

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Posted: Aug. 01 2004,16:12

Indeed, it is....
You should be able to start a log, and then go back to it and see
what files the "make install" placed in your file system.
That would be a good start to seeing what files need to make it
into your .dsl.
The challenge wil be to get it copied over to a .dsl BEFORE you
run it, so the install is there for all to use and setup.

Kinda like the "gimp" package, where you get asked a bunch o' stuff before it runs...

I'll set this .dsl aside for now... Let me know how it goes..

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ke4nt

ripcrd6

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Posted: Aug. 02 2004,18:19

Didn't get to this over the weekend so I retested this morning on the same machine as before, 2.4GHz 1GB ram Gateway. OK, revised testing methodology. I retested any previously reported non-working DSL files after a reboot. So I have more working DSLs to report. I will just make a list of the ones I tested and results and any notes I made.

Working: Abiword, Ace of Penguins, ayttm, BitchX (cmd line), bittorrent (cmd line), circuslinux, doom, dsl-dpkg (far as I could tell), dsl-xjig, gcombust, gcompris (it did freeze after 3 wrong answers and had to be killed), giftui, gimp1_2, gnu-utils (I updated on 7/30 and checked in /bin to find std gnu tools there), gps, gtkam, gv, icewm-blue, icewm (after exiting and startx ice), kjvbible, lgames, linpsk, mathwar, mplayer, nessus, nmap, Open Office, Penguin Command, ptbr (this one I know worked because it changed my keymap), rox filer, samba, scite, tcltk8.3, toppler, tuxpaint, tuxtype, twlog, whitebox, xastir, xbill, xephem, xgalaga, xgammon, xine, xmame, xmule, xpat2, xpen, xpuyopuyo, ymess, blue theme (I would change the name of the pkg to match what it puts in themes menu, AlmostX or rename the theme something else), copperwine-theme (very cool), perfect blue theme, dsl-aterm, firefox (in tar.gz format), j2re1.4.2, oouser (couldn't really tell what it does, by itself it adds non-working icons to desktop, without it, OO.0 still runs), pente, python2.3, winspace-theme, xbubble, xmahjongg.

Possibly working: barrage (exits after launch, from CLI I get an error about no avail sound device. I did see my sound device listed on boot, i810 audio), freebirth (same problem as barrage, icon launchs it and it exits, from CLI I get audio error), nessusd (stuff is placed in /usr/bin, but when I try to start it I get message about /home/dsl/.tmp being required. I was unable to create a file or directory by this name. I may be doing something wrong. I tried to use touch to create a .tmp file), quake2 (I get the menu item and icon, but nothing happens, do I need Quake2 files on my PC or on the CD? I have Q2 around my house somewhere.), ruby (it installs in /usr/bin, but I have no way to test.), sox-12.17.3 (I tried this from menu and CLI. From CLI I get a very vague useage line, I have no idea what this module does or how to use it.), vba (seems OK from CLI, but I have no files to run it with), wavemon (seems OK, but I still did not get to test in my laptop w/ wifi card), wv (seems to install fine in /usr/bin, but I didn't convert any files with it), oouser (see above), php ( I don't have anyway to see if it works, is this for a webserver add-on? I'm assuming that it adds the PHP libs for building webpages and serving)

Definitely not working: amsn (loads in menu and icon, but doesn't launch. At one point the CPU went to and stayed at 100% because of this module.), t-bird, x-chat, xscreensaver (creates menu item, but doesn't launch. From CLI it gives: error loading shared libs, libXrandr.so.2 can't open), ff (this is the compressed image, ff.ci. It puts an icon down, but it won't launch. I don't see the advantage of doing this over the .tar.gz file which does work.), xvc (have no idea about this module, it does nothing), ion2 (I thought this was another window manager, but I was unable to start it like I could iceWM.)

Other problems:
icewm (after you switch to this wm, you no longer have the mydsl menu item)

If you want more info let me know. I have other stuff to report in the 0.7.3 plain section, this is just about the DSL modules. Overall, I was surprised at how many worked. I actually tested stuff I have no plans on using, I just wanted to help out on a beefy machine. If t-bird and xchat and possibly Quake2 get working, then I'd be very happy. I still need to test this on my laptop. I am going to blow away Knoppix 3.4 for DSL 0.7.3. Sorry if this is too long or short, but it is the only way.

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ke4nt1

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Posted: Aug. 02 2004,19:48

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Sorry if this is too long or short, but it is the only way

What? Are you kidding ? This is the good stuff !!
Feedback like this is EXACTLY what I'm lookin' for

Your results matched mine very closely... Good Work !

Here are what I see different, or that require further explanation,
in the order you have posted them in your texts..

bittorrent ( has an X window setup when first run )
dsl-dpkg ( If apt-get works, if /etc/apt exists, your good-2-go )
gcompris ( some of the games do fine, like matching, others die )
oouser ( the user icons and files for the OOo.ci cloop version )
( If you saw icons and menu options, it's fine )
...Do you have the wmix app in the lower right corner of your desktop, right below the mount utility ? ..
... Detecting your s-card at bootup isn't the same thing as actually having it working..Does XMMS work for you on this box ? ...
Barrage ( requires sound )
Freebirth ( again, requires sound , it's a sound synthesizer )
Nessusd ( Hmmm.. I'll look again, good feedback so far )
Quake2 ( requires at least the "pak0.pak" game file from either
the shareware or retail version to play , place it in your baseq2
directory - the game files are not GPL'ed )
Ruby ( Programming app - who knows )
sox ( again, sound effects app for cli - requires sound)
vba ( like quake2, it requires non-GPL'ed "ROMS" to play )
php ( Yes, an addition to the web server )
amsn ( It's still a first version contrib, and only recently rebuilt )
t-bird ( known issues )
x-chat ( Missing libs error, I think.. )
xscreensaver ( known issues - mine always says the same error about XRandr libs as yours did.. )
ff.tar.gz ( user files and icons for the firefox.ci cloop version )
( If you saw icons and a menu listing, it's fine )
xvc.tar.gz ( very specific instructions for its use in xvc.info )
ion2 ( first version - still requiring a rebuild - may not be cross-compatible with "dsl" vs "damnsmall" username )

All in all , I say you did a very FINE job separating the
"wheat" from the "chaff" ....

Now, after I check all these apps for proper file ownerships, permissions, file structures, proper tar structure, etc,
then I try to determine what happens when these apps are run in "Combos"
(especially the red level apps, because they OVERWRITE things)

I stay away from the ones with known issues, but give it a go
at installing 3 or 4 of these apps in the same desktop.
Preferably only 1 red level app in the group.

I'm looking for libs that some programs want to update,
or don't realize that they are already in the DSL base distro.
Packages built from .debs or "apt-get" want to stay in
"good debian form" for package management reasons.

But the DSL distro breaks away from true "Debian" form, by
adding apps that aren't "deb'd" or "Apt-got" thru traditional
means.. Therefore a new .dsl file may want to install a lib,
thinking it SHOULDN'T already exist, but it does.

And it does for a reason, and overwriting it may break the
original app that placed the first version of the lib in DSL.

And if that's crazy, you should see how new apps work when I
"downgrade" their libs so that they DON'T overwrite"...
( actually, most apps do just fine like this..keyword - MOST )

Oh yeah, I figured out why my laptop would not run mplayer.
Trying it in a shell gave me the error message
......~ for cpu with mmx / sse extensions .....
Not on my poor little compaq laptop.. never had , never will

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ke4nt

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