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Topic: remove the hd install script, will force desired frugal design

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Posted: May 02 2006,18:51

As Debian moves forward, is DSL still going to really be a "debian style HD install"?

DSL already uses the older "oldstable" repository for its applications. While this isn't a problem for developing a controlled livecd, I think as Debian (in theory) marches on we're going to end up less and less of a "debian style install on the HD" due to version conflicts, changes in default applications and architectural changes in both Debian and DSL.

I think for the moment, removing the HD install script from the menus is a good idea. Leaving the whoppingly huge 6kb script on the disc is also a good idea for power users too. :-)

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doobit

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Posted: May 02 2006,18:56

Quote (mikshaw @ May 02 2006,14:20)

This problem you perceive with the inclusion of a traditional alternative will simply increase with the apparent removal of the alternative.

I don't think so. It seems like some people who are doing the Debian type install are doing it because they see the word "install" and think that's what they are supposed to do. DSL just works better as a Frugal. I think making the full-install option less obvious would push new users toward the Frugal. One way to steer a herd is to limit their open gates. Just my opinion, but it works in cattle theory.

Actually, people are probably more like cats...

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mikshaw

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Posted: May 02 2006,19:43

for clarification: When I say debian-style, i mean it as a general term for a setup which, like debian and hundreds of others, has its entire filesystem installed to a writeable partition or partitions, and where changes are permanent.

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cbagger01

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Posted: May 04 2006,05:16

It seems like the main concern being addressed here is:

We need to find a way to stop the casual user from choosing the "Debian Style hard disk install" from the menu because we all know what is really best for them and yet they are choosing the "wrong" option.

If this is the main perceived problem, why remove the choice or the script itself? It sounds like a rather drastic and limiting solution.

Simply add some wording like "RECOMMENDED" to the frugal hard drive install choice and call it a day.

There is plenty of real estate on a computer monitor's screen and additional text wording is cheap (in bytes) and easy to do.

You can even write a small book explaining the drawbacks to a "Debian Style" hard drive install, if that's your cup of tea.