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Topic: remove the hd install script, will force desired frugal design

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lovdsl

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Posted: May 02 2006,16:04

Yes..it would seem reasonable to include it if it were not an obvious choice as in the menu and getting started page but available as a terminal command.

The appless version may be suggested as response to questions about installs to send possible issues in that direction. leaveing hd installs in dsl to a minimum.

I did not find distro alternatives for hd install with as much ease and gui so I am not suprised it is a popular choice for those who have never heard of frugal and feel comfortable with old standards

an appless forum may be more helpfull for hd users as questions may be answered without as much pressure to use frugal unless a poster had continuous issue that may be solved by doing so...many appless users would no doubt be useing frugal and have good knowledge base.

it may be noted on the getting started page of appless that hd installs do not offer uninstall for extensions and will not be modified.. up front... this may shy away some desire.

in any case it may ease the confusion haveing three directions with dsl the center and frugal...this was my original thought.

roberts

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Posted: May 02 2006,16:24

The main page say Debain type traditional hard drive install.
The boot screen say installs as Debian type.

The extensions are not an official part of DSL, but rather a community process, the main reason for this is not only community involvement but also to maintain compliance with certain standards group. But even on the extensions website it clearly says...

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Damn Small Linux myDSL Application Extensions
ALL DSL Extensions are made exclusively for Damn Small Linux.
This requires loading them from within DSL, as user dsl.
They are made for the liveCD and "frugal" type installs.
They do not provide package management, simply reboot.
While not made for hard drive installed systems.
most will work however it is not recommended.

myDSL extensions are put together by DSL users independent of the Damn Small Linux project
DSL does not warrant the integrity of sources, builds, or files donated

This has been revisted so many times.

lovdsl

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Posted: May 02 2006,17:00

Revisited so many times...thus the SUGGESTION to remove the hd install at least in view.. and fill the void with the clearer hd option in the desired appless offering..the extensions seem to work very well on my hd install...the issue seems to be uninstall for those who get out of control installing them. it is only a suggestion.
observation suggests dsl developers are uninterested in feedback in this regard..but the desire to hd install none the less exists and will continue to do so until some alternative arises ( frugal is an alternative but I mean a disto alternative )..it is a compliment to dsl to be so versitile...versitility however broadens questions.

perhaps it is better to remove and suggest a linux alternative.
offering the alternative keeps the crowd...over there...

pr0f3550r

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Posted: May 02 2006,18:00

Quote (lovdsl @ May 02 2006,13:00)

observation suggests dsl developers are uninterested in feedback in this regard..

We might both be completely wrong, but I though the same a few times.

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Posted: May 02 2006,18:20

I don't understand what benefit there is to removing the script. People will continue to want debian-style harddrive installs, regardless of whether or not it's an obvious option. What will happen, and I'm about 97% sure of this, is that there will be an increase in posts asking how to do a traditional harddrive install. This problem you perceive with the inclusion of a traditional alternative will simply increase with the apparent removal of the alternative.

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