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Posted: June 01 2008,04:04 QUOTE

Not to beat a dead horse, but after much testing it seems to me that flash 9 with nspluginwrapper might fail on DSL for the same reasons wine did in this post:

http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin....t=19197

It does not seem to be DSL's smp kernel, nor the lack of Linux 2.6 since Sarge runs flash 9 without fail with a 2.4 smp kernel.  Neither Sarge or DSL links npviewer.bin to anything in /lib/tls, but I have a hunch that the glibc thingy mentioned in the above link may be the culprit.  FreeBSD has to use Linux NPTL emulation features to get flash 9 for Linux to work with it.  The thread local storage support may or may not be what makes flash work on Sarge, but it is the only straw left to grasp.  
Since I am tying fishing flies part time for money I like to be able to watch an instructional Youtube video every now and then for pointers.  But to be honest, flash is a horrible waste of bandwidth and CPU cycles.  And most flash is just useless advertisements - spam.  I think of the lack of flash in DSL to be more of a blessing than a curse.  I would rather download the particular video I want and play it in my favorite movie player than to by default have to suffer through every junk flash ad there is out there.  In other words no flash 9, no big deal.  
But I did try to get it to work.   Of course if anyone has a workaround/solution, that would be great.

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EDIT: It is still so easy to download Youtube/GoogleVideo videos with Firefox GTK1 and play them without bothering with Flash/GTK2. See this link:

http://www.downloadyoutubevideos.com/  (Just beware the .)

And that is the only reason I would want flash is to play Youtube videos.  I do not blame Adobe for upping the requirements/features of flash player.  That is "progress".  But how sweet it would be for webmasters to think that there is a large market of folks out there that have no use for their bloated flash spam that only wastes our time and resources.  And that we would flock to sites that do not deluge us with that crap.  Then the progress instead may be "keep it simple, stupid".
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Posted: June 01 2008,08:17 QUOTE

I prefer the script for downloading them, and don't have flash on any machine just for the 98% ads.
Full support for you and your rant.


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Posted: June 01 2008,09:03 QUOTE

I'll have to respectfully disagree on this one.  Check out any decent publication, such as the Wall Street Journal, and you'll find an increasing amount of content in video format (and without ads, unlike TV viewing).
Also, there are plenty of tutorials coming online.  They all use Flash 9.  So far, ad blockers have knocked out most of the spam, so I haven't noticed an increase for having Flash working.  

Even tiny packages with 2.6 seem to work flawlessly not only with Flash 9 but for other Apps such as Skype (which gives you high quality unlimited phone service for $2/month from any computer you log on with) .
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Posted: June 01 2008,09:27 QUOTE

This is in no way contributing to the topic in question, but anyway...

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Since I am tying fishing flies part time for money..
- that's one of the most unique/original jobs I heard of in a long time  :)

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which gives you high quality unlimited phone service for $2/month from any computer you log on with...
- as long as the country where you live (any many nearby countries) does not block skype et al  :(
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Posted: June 01 2008,12:51 QUOTE

I normally try to keep blogging/rambling here to a minimum, but I had a couple of beers before last post (couple != 2).  Of course there are useful things out there that are built around flash 9.  And I wanted it to make it work with present DSL, despite the odds.  I guess I don't deal well with frustration.
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