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meo

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Posted: June 01 2008,15:21

Hi Jason W!

To me it seems just to be a matter of preferences or what you like. I wouldn't mind having flash 9 working with DSL. But that's just my opinion and I'm pretty sure that I'm entitled to have my own opinion about that!

Have fun and be productive (if you want) with DSL,
meo

PS Jason I have also been tying fishing flies and selling them although it was quite a while ago now. Nowadays I don't tie so much. Just when I run out of a certain fly that the trout likes. I probably have more than a thousand flies and most of them I don't use and I have material enough to make a couple of thousands more DS

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Jason W

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Posted: June 01 2008,15:29

curaga,

Ok, I misread. But I wasn't offended.

meo,

I am having to order more supplies to remake my batch of woolly buggers that I messed up. They were the first flies I tied, started a week or so ago. I haven't even attempted the hare's ear nymph. I have to make 12 of each for my first batch and hope they pass inspection. Like anything, it will take time and practice.

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Back on topic, even though DSL 5.x is around the corner I will still work quietly with nspluginwrapper to see if it can be made to work with Flash 9 and DSL. I get the _exact_ same errors that 2.6 kernels get that are solved with some patches to nspluginwrapper. One good thing is that Firefox does not crash or lock up when flash/nspluginwrapper crashes. If it can work, I will post an nspluginwrapper extension.

WDef

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Posted: June 01 2008,15:29

I have been able to get away with Flash7 mostly well enough thus far, but that is changing rapidly. Lately I am hitting more and more sites than insist on a newer flash version. Adobe Flash really has a huge dissemination in the marketplace (installed on the vast majority of PCs) and is the de facto standard for a lot of this web media stuff, whether we like it or not.

Google docs recently told me it wanted a newer flash for the chat program, but otherwise worked ok.

Adobe have recently opened up a lot more of the flash code base and I believe they have dropped fees to purchase the source code, probably partly in response to the need to get flash running on different CPUs like Atom. Previously vendors who wanted to get Flash running on their platform when it didn't already had to pay Adobe lots of money and then do the port themselves.

Flash9 also has a big problem with hardware video acceleration on some platforms making it lousy for full screen playback. I don't know if Flash10 fixes that yet, it certainly doesn't on Atom/Poulsbo since I know that has been tried and by who.

The place to check on progress in Gnash is their changelog/news, not the user docs. That is where I learned 12 months ago that they already supported many features of Flash9.

Jason sounds like he might possibly be a correct bear about NPTL, which for the mainline kernel means 2.6.xx.

Googling suggests that Red Hat had a patch for NPTL for 2.4.21, but there does not seem to be a patch for 2.4.31.

http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2005-10/5912.html

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.. I doubt anybody else would do the work, you'll find that any NPTL patch is
bound to be huge and intrusive. Try running 2.6 if possible. A 2.4 kernel
with NPTL patched in is not going to confer any stability benefits over 2.6.

Jason: what version is your Sarge 2.4xx kernel - can you look it up and work out if it has been patched for NPTL?

Jason W

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Posted: June 01 2008,16:07

Wdef,
It is the regular 2.4.27-4-686 kernel that comes with Sarge. I first thought it was the SMP kernel in DSL that was making the issue. But in Sarge flash 9 works flawless with both the regular and SMP 2.4.27 kernel. So it does not seem to be the SMP kernel. I am using Sarge's GTK2 environment as well so I will try Sarge with the gtk+-2.12.9 extension and see if it is a gtk issue. I will try Sarge with our 2.4.31 kernel when I get home and see how that goes too. I am not yet going to chalk this one up to glibc differences, that was just a hunch.
I had given a go this week at compiling gnash and swfdec. They have a lot of dependencies but an open source flash player would be nice to have in the extension area. At work, gotta go.

jpeters

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Posted: June 01 2008,17:49

Quote (WDef @ June 01 2008,15:29)

Flash9 also has a big problem with hardware video acceleration on some platforms making it lousy for full screen playback. I don't know if Flash10 fixes that yet, it certainly doesn't on Atom/Poulsbo since I know that has been tried and by who.

Still, it's rather amazing how far its come in a few years. You can play streaming video in a 5.25" window perfectly synced on an old Dell Laptop with no buffering pauses in full color resolution. Remember the distorted 1.5" videos that paused every few seconds for buffering with the mouth gestures a second behind the sound ?

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