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Posted: Jan. 26 2006,10:43 QUOTE

NO MC ??? :(

That's very bad - while maybe 10% of the users might be happier with some GUI file manager MC can also be used after booting with "dsl 2" !!!

There are probably other things that should go first - like TED :(

Even jwm - I personally like that one better than fluxbox but many programs (like the MyDSL mplayer) do not seem to work well with it so it should be either fixed or dropped :(

Even Firefox is a better contender to be moved to MyDSL ...
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Posted: Jan. 26 2006,12:08 QUOTE

Hehehe, this is pretty funny. Last time when links got dropped, plenty of people (me included) said they ould rather drop mc instead of links. It sems like every aplication has its own hardcore fanbase. :laugh:

I think mc is pretty unnecessary. Everybody who works on the console, can use regular shell command. And people who prefer a GUI have something they can use as well. The feature-set of mc is simply not unique, it's only convenience of not changing habits, nothing more. I don't mind seeing mc go, and yes, I have used it (=equivalents) a lot, for years back then. If I was able to loose that habit, you can, too! ;)


Btw: Great job on already having 2.2RC out the door. I was just barely able to give 2.1 (final) a try a few days ago. :)
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Posted: Jan. 26 2006,13:41 QUOTE

i vote to get ride of the games (if you really want them just dl them)
and to get ride of xpaint because you can get gimp which is better anyway if you want to and for myself i just ssh into a machine with gimp anyway


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Posted: Jan. 26 2006,14:42 QUOTE

I tested the French keyboard because it was an issue for me in the previous release. Here are my tests plus a spredsheet as summary. What is strange is that the keyboard reacts differently from one application to the other????

Tests made from
Dillo : the URL line
Yahoo : inside the message to be sent
Beaver : inside a new document
Sylpheed : the name of a new account

The "less painful" is latin 1 because:
I can send a mail from Sylpheed (everything's OK)
lack of @ could be a Pb to send a mail from Yahoo (Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V could be a temporary solution)
the rest is fine except Beaver for special characters ( )

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Posted: Jan. 26 2006,16:04 QUOTE

Quote (ruserious @ Jan. 26 2006,07:08)
I think mc is pretty unnecessary. Everybody who works on the console, can use regular shell command. And people who prefer a GUI have something they can use as well. The feature-set of mc is simply not unique, it's only convenience of not changing habits, nothing more. I don't mind seeing mc go, and yes, I have used it (=equivalents) a lot, for years back then. If I was able to loose that habit, you can, too! ;)

I disagree with this mostly.  It sounds to me like saying "Everybody who prefers using keyboard in X can use ratpoison".  People who use console often prefer it because it is much faster and more flexible than working with a mouse.  Midnight Commander makes things even faster than a plain shell by giving you hotkeys and windows to access files and commands.  It also allows you to use the very same skill set in either console or X, rather than having to adjust your behavior to do the same tasks in both...I like to call that "efficient".

You do make the point that the same tasks *can* be done in a shell, which is ultimately a more flexible and necessary tool.  However, you can do the same tasks as emelfm from within an X shell. The feature set of emelfm is simply not unique (clicking isn't unique...mc has mouse support).

In any case, i've said it doesn't really matter to me what apps are added and removed, and that remains mostly true.  Personally I'd like to see DSL be closer to 20-30mb....no applications other than those necessary to get you booted into an x terminal and run the DSL tools.  From that point, any additional apps, including window manager, file manager, browser, etc., can be mounted into the file system.


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