ke4nt1
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Posted: Sep. 13 2005,21:07 |
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Allow me to conclude this thread by replying to some of my quoted statements, and some last thoughts.
This thread has become degenerated, and very non-productive to any definition of "user contribution" .. It's more " debatin' for show, or sport " than being very useful.
TO quote me about my stating that 'solutions are in the works', and mistaking that for a conflict of words with SU, or a lack of interest, or thoughts to suppress user-contributions such as friedgold posted, are very poor explanations of my post. It was posted with joy, and excitement about things 'yet-to-come" ..
While this thread started with a new user ( posts =1 ), asking for some info about removing an extension he'd installed, and was replied to by adssse stating the obvious facts, (nogo) it then went on to Undertow describing his exploration into "removal by script", NOT a very good idea for a n00b, and certainly destructive to his install, should he have actually executed what was posted... I jumped in to say "what if" on a number of examples, to which I got the usual, but pleasant banter of back-n-forth about the idea.. no problem ..
Some of the posts were edited , or corrected, since that time.
Where it's gone to from there to where it is now has been nothing but a debate, and over what? Suspicions about policy? Attempts to read into others posts whatever inflames you?
Before this recent string of threads began, about posting and linking unsupported items in DSL's documentation WiKi's... (the first fuel to fire this mess) Have any of you felt unwelcome to contribute, or share? Unhappy with the results of the 0.8, 0.9, 1.x series DSL releases?
I feel this incoming FUD needs to end. cbagger01's last post spoke volumes..
I will explain one of MY quotes more clearly to prevent any further confusion over my posts..
Quote | Team DSL is working on solutions for these items.. stay tuned.
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This is NOT about developing immediate techniques for removing .dsl's or .tar.gz's from hard drive installs. SU was correct about that NOT being on the radar..
My comment is about future developments improving the distro, and making the idea completely unnecessary and obsolete.
This is about the future of DSL and it's packages.
.dsl files have been around since 0.7 .ci since 0.8 .uci's since 1.0
Look at the improvements made to DSL since 0.7 ? Do you think this development is going to stop? All this stuff is old, first-generation, and will be abandoned for better, faster, and smaller developmental progress and new ways of improving this incredible wave of ram-based, modular technology we see a huge swell of interest in.. ( DSL's focus )
Have you noticed DSL getting 'smaller' ? ( more innovation, less size ) There are already a great number of fine additions we could add into DSL with all that free space...but..
DSL already has a roadmap for versions 2.x, 3.x, etc.. layed out in plan form, and underway.
DSL 'IS' an open-source distribution, everything in it is open.
But it is NOT an open-development model. so, this information is not disclosed to the public. ( meaning, I won't discuss it, or disclose it with you.. )
This DOES means you can DO whatever you want with it, in its current form.
This does NOT mean the developers of the future DSL versions have any obligation to take into consideration or include any "user-contributions" into DSL code. It is only by merit and benefit to the roadmap that code is allowed into DSL development.
User contributions are always welcomed, and reviewed. Many items submitted to DSL are currently in the distro..
But using DSL resources, such as the wiki, or documentation, for "user contributions" and "pimpin your warez", is simply rude, and bad form.. Get your own bandwidth and server to do this..
Now, links and discussions about scripts, alterations, remasters, links to your own builds, extensions, whatever, ...the forums is certainly the place to share...
Undertow, I'll address you personally, since your negativity and venom is now showing up in other, more positive threads. i.e. http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin....w;st=10 ( 15 compliments, and a few questions, easily found in the wiki and docs ?) ( Why trash the thread ? .. SuperLou didn't deserve that.. )
How does this post help YOUR development of creating an uninstaller for first generation extensions into DSL hard drive installs?
Or, assist yourself or others in getting thru this bottleneck you perceive, and away from the dark side?
I think I'll just sit the rest of this one out, folks..
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