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  DSL is booting very slowly
Posted by: klawischnigg - 02-04-2024, 05:34 PM - Forum: User Feedback - Replies (8)

Hi there,


I installed DSL on a SSD which I put in an about 15 yrs old Acer Aspire (2GB RAM).

Eveything is working, but the booting process needs more than 10 minutes. No error messages. 
Any suggestions what could go wrong or where I can get more information about this problem?

thx in advance

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  Wrong choice of market share target
Posted by: rufwoof - 02-04-2024, 01:45 PM - Forum: User Feedback - Replies (4)

IMHO - DSL as-is .. is just another in a already fully-fluxed arena (Fatdog, Puppy ...etc.).

Better ... and simpler, would be a 'small' similar to my own. A vmlinuz with integral intiramfs, 25MB filesize, where all my modules/firmware are built into the kernel and the initramfs contains just enough to boot to a vesa/simpledrm framebuffer (very generic), wifi/eth net connect, alsa/sndio and has ssh/vnc. Very portable, many devices support vesa and can boot provided secure-boot is disabled, boots in a second, ssh/vnc connects in a couple more seconds, and drops you into a full gui desktop that may be running chrome to view youtubes ... whatever, and has the appearance of running at the net/cpu speed of whatever you vnc into.

Bloat the kernel, to include a broader range of device support, and the size increase is still relatively small. Perhaps a 50MB vmlinuz filesize (assuming xz compressed).

Booting in a second, dropping into a full gui desktop (libre office, chrome ...etc.) in a couple of seconds more - resuming where you left off, with a look-n-feel of running at whatever the server runs at ... can be impressive, and usable enough to retain users - I use mine as my primary choice of boot. As my ISP caps upload speeds to 20Mbs (2.5MB/sec) I've set a default of using 12 frames per second, 16 bit color depth ... and that still looks/feels fine, whilst typically seeing 2MB/sec (16Mbs) data rates when viewing a youtube. I also have a vncserver on my phone (termux (not rooted) based). The home server is a i5/nvidia/ethernet box, so for instance when out and about and vnc'd into that a online-internet-speed-test will appear to provide a 140Mbs download rate, as will high resolution videos/youtubes appear to play OK (but in reality where many frames are actually skipped/dropped).

And that transfers the overhead of having to maintain repos, as that's then the servers responsibility. I often have multiple vnc's running concurrently, windows, mac, linux, bsd, android ... whatever, according to whichever program/app is appropriate at the time.

As-is I see DSL being just a another novelty, try once for fun, maybe then just gathers dust or is removed. Missing out on a better market-share at the lower terminal-server style end that DSL could have thrown itself into. But fair enough, DSL could still be setup/used in a similar vein to my framebuffer boot, load Xvnc for a X session, run vncviewer in that to connect to a remote vncserver, and framebuffer vnc into that local Xvnc session (were all elements are set to 16 bit color depth, and the servers are set to 12 frames/second).

JMHO. Not intended as a criticism, congratulations to the DSL team for their hard work/efforts in reviving DSL.

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  Package request: brightnessctl
Posted by: dbohdan - 02-04-2024, 01:19 PM - Forum: User Feedback - Replies (1)

The current alpha comes with xbacklight installed, which is a program for controlling backlight brightness. xbacklight does not work on my Eee PC 1001PX or on my ThinkPad T400. I have found a working replacement in brightnessctl. I would like to request adding it.

My impression is that xbacklight has poor compatibility. The Arch wiki seems to agree. So I would actually suggest removing xbacklight and only shipping brightnessctl.

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  ConnMan tray-- no wifi connection
Posted by: Pet3M0ss - 02-04-2024, 12:55 AM - Forum: Help Section - Replies (10)

Upon boot I see the ConnMan connection app with my wifi detected.  As I had to reboot my PC to get back online, this note is done from a  memory that might not be accurate.  Network manager usually detects possible network names followed by a window to enter the network password.  DSL is not going to be too popular if the wifi setup isn't simple, easily understood and quickly executed.

My help request is a walk-through for the ConnMan Tray.  I can see advantages of ConnMan. This is the first Linux distro that I've run into that uses it.  Sell me on it!

Need to put the ConnMan info in the FAQ folder. 

 I would also include the user name is "demo" with password "demo" and "root" is the password for the superuser root. If the user wants to play in the terminal and use connmanctl commands, they will soon need the passwords.

Don't mean to be a grump and feel free to flame me if I should have found the info somewhere in a help section.

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  Apt Upgrade issues HP Mini
Posted by: ProsaicHacker - 02-03-2024, 10:28 PM - Forum: User Feedback - Replies (2)

Tried
apt update
apt upgrade

I noticed that the the icons on the EXIT menu were now colored button instead of grey squares.

I could not longer could start the terminal. from the status line.
It would open from inside the file Manager.

Restarted and investigating with only update no upgrade.
HP MINI https://www.manua.ls/hp/mini-110/specifications
2G

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Big Grin Wifi does not connect
Posted by: Pet3M0ss - 02-03-2024, 06:18 PM - Forum: User Feedback - Replies (2)

I'm not a virtual machine type of user and wifi works fine for LinuxMint and Tails (live) on my PC.   With DSL booting fine into Legacy mode, the wifi is an issue.

ConnMan window shows ethernet and wifi "on" but not connected.  Tried typing in my home network, router address, router password, etc. into various buttons but no joy.  Iwconfig command shows the wifi available.  Did ConnMan search and got a techie avalanche.  You can assume all the home network wifi is working on a variety of operating systems. Need a walk-through how to understand the ConnMan UI in terms a lazy Slackware refugee can understand Undecided

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  Installed on EEE PC 4G
Posted by: McTea - 02-03-2024, 03:51 PM - Forum: User Feedback - Replies (7)

Installed it on an really old  EEE PC 4G :-) which run DSL already a long long time ago!
had some little Problems...
Start from USB Stick didn´t work first, had to use Save Video Mode.
only english keyboard available in the boot options
The original resolution 800x480 is not available, only 640x480.
Touchpad is very slow, switching to an external mouse works much better
apt-get update says: at least one list file is missing
System takes 3.12 GB Space without anything additional installed

Hope this informations are usefull,
Thanks for the efforts bringing DSL back!

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  Works on IMac 2006/7
Posted by: petersieg - 02-03-2024, 01:40 PM - Forum: User Feedback - Replies (2)

Hi there.
Is working from Boot-CD on old Apple IMac 2006 (the white ones) and 2007 (Alu IMac).
Even wlan is working! Very good!
I tried to install on 2007 - use entire internal disk - shows 'Windows' boot disk (also boot cd shows 'Windows'), but does not boot the internal installation?
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I then tried it on 2006 IMac - this time did NOT use entire disk - used EFI and spare partition - not touching Mac OSX 10.6 partion.
This time an boot menu, Mac OSX partion was shown and dsl 'Windows' partion.
And this time 'Windows' booted into dsl 2024.

Wish Apple, there are many things that must be meet correctly, to be able to boot - so this needs some more investigation some time..

Many thanks, for revival of the good old dsl ;-)
I like the CD max 700MB approach as well as the nice background image.

Now the next question will be, howto install a usable, actual web browser into the hdd installation.

Thx, Peter

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  Forum feedback
Posted by: dbohdan - 02-03-2024, 10:46 AM - Forum: User Feedback - Replies (1)

This looks like a nice forum, but I think some important features are missing. I would like to request them:

  1. A mobile theme. It is inconvenient to check the forum on a phone.
  2. A BBCode tag for inline code. The "[code]" tag that is currently available creates a code block. It is "<pre><code>" in HTML, and I would like a "<code>" tag without the "<pre>". In other words, "[code]" is like "```" in Markdown; what I am asking for is "`". I have used "font=Courier New" for monospace text. The issue with this is that it doesn't work on systems without the Courier New font, which include desktop Linux with no Microsoft core fonts. It is also not semantic like "<code>", meaning potentially worse accessibility.
  3. Maybe a "<details>" tag for hiding longer snippets of code, logs, etc. embedded in the text of a post. While I used an attachment for my X log, my first thought was to look for a way to create a folding code block.
  4. A favicon. :-) There is currently no favicon. It makes my KeePassXC sad. You could symlink the PNG logo to "/favicon.ico" on the server.

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  Alpha Feedback; thanks!
Posted by: John - 02-03-2024, 12:01 AM - Forum: DSL News - Replies (2)

I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone who has taken the time to download and try out the the Alpha release.  Your feedback will really help speed along development.

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